[SOLVED] General question AUR Packages in artix-xfce-openrc-20210426-x86

[SOLVED] General question AUR Packages in artix-xfce-openrc-20210426-x86_64.iso

19 June 2021, 13:37:15

Hello,

I checked, which packets are installed. I am pretty sure I did't install any AUR. So I am a little bit irritaded, because use AUR is of own risk.
Is it possible that following AUR are installed by default?
Is this the official packet list, ore is there an other one I didn't current find?
https://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=artix&pkglist=true&version=20210426#pkglist

aria2
midori -> this is also available in Artix Repos.
orage
xfce4-timer-plugin
zeitgeist

Thx TM

Re: General question AUR Packages in artix-xfce-openrc-20210426-x86_64.iso

Reply #1 – 19 June 2021, 13:54:37

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$ pikaur -Ss ^aria2
Searching... [###]
community/aria2 1.35.0-2 [installed]
    Download utility that supports HTTP(S), FTP, BitTorrent, and Metalink
$ pikaur -Ss ^xfce4-timer-plugin
Searching... [###]
extra/xfce4-timer-plugin 1.7.1-1 (xfce4-goodies)
    Plugin to track time for the Xfce4 panel
$ pikaur -Ss ^zeitgeist
Searching... [###]
extra/zeitgeist 1.0.3-3 [installed]
    Service logging user activities and events
community/zeitgeist-explorer 0.2-9
    Graphical interface to monitor and inspect Zeitgeist's log at a low level
$ pikaur -Ss orange | grep \/orange
Searching... [###]
aur/orange 0.4-7 [outofdate: 2018/03/03] (0, 0.00)
aur/orange-cat-bin 0.2.2-1 (0, 0.00)

aria2 is in the community repository, and xfce4-timer-plugin is in extra repository, which are Arch repositories, and not AUR.

The only package out of those you listed that is in AUR is orange, which is also unrelated to midori.

They (minus orange) are required by midori, which is, interestingly, also in the community (Arch) repository. So I guess midori should be added to Artix repositories.

Re: General question AUR Packages in artix-xfce-openrc-20210426-x86_64.iso

Reply #2 – 19 June 2021, 14:54:26

Thank you!

I use octopi. (Only for looking, what is installed!). May be octopi show wrong information. Then sorry.

For me only is important, that these installed AUR are ok.

After Install I disabled all aktivated Arch Repos in pacman.conf.

Re: General question AUR Packages in artix-xfce-openrc-20210426-x86_64.iso

Reply #3 – 19 June 2021, 15:20:57

I haven't used octopi, but pacman agrees with pikaur on those packages found to be in the Arch repositories "community" and "extra".

What is that package "orage" (not "orange")? I can't find it even in AUR with the AUR helper, nor on the AUR website.

Re: General question AUR Packages in artix-xfce-openrc-20210426-x86_64.iso

Reply #4 – 19 June 2021, 16:56:33

Quote from: strajder – on 19 June 2021, 15:20:57

I haven't used octopi, but pacman agrees with pikaur on those packages found to be in the Arch repositories "community" and "extra".

The command picaur is not found. In the Iso actual available Iso (2021-04-26 02:26:37) the Arch Reps were enabled by default?
So may be also this AUR which are sown in octopi?
After fresh Install I first run update and aborted it, because I have read, that Arch Repos should be disbaled. So I disabled the Arch Repos in pacman.conf first.

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xmg:[me]:~$ sudo pacman -Syu
:: Synchronisiere Paketdatenbanken...
 system                260,6 KiB  1533 KiB/s 00:00 [######################] 100%
 world                1875,5 KiB  6,71 MiB/s 00:00 [######################] 100%
 galaxy               1798,4 KiB  6,43 MiB/s 00:00 [######################] 100%
 extra                1566,2 KiB  5,75 MiB/s 00:00 [######################] 100%
 community               5,6 MiB  6,42 MiB/s 00:01 [######################] 100%

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What is that package "orage" (not "orange")? I can't find it even in AUR with the AUR helper, nor on the AUR website.

This is from xfce. I think this was taken over from xfce. It is the calendar which is shown by default in the panel after first install.
But for example Artix xfce Installation is different to other xfce versions i had before. It don't take over the same contents from xfce like Manjaro or Ubuntu do. So catfisch and engrampa was not included in thunar. In the xfce version from Manjaro they are automaticly shown in the Kontextmenü from thunar.

I guess, that there soon will be a new Iso version, where the Arch Repos are disabled?

Re: General question AUR Packages in artix-xfce-openrc-20210426-x86_64.iso

Reply #5 – 19 June 2021, 19:03:26

Quote from: Thats_me – on 19 June 2021, 16:56:33

The command picaur is not found.

It's pikaur (with a K), it is an AUR helper I'm using, from AUR: https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/pikaur/

Re: General question AUR Packages in artix-xfce-openrc-20210426-x86_64.iso

Reply #6 – 19 June 2021, 20:47:00

Quote from: strajder – on 19 June 2021, 19:03:26

It's pikaur (with a K),

Yes thx, I made a typing error in my post. I tryed pikaur, but I have not installed this "tool".

Re: General question AUR Packages in artix-xfce-openrc-20210426-x86_64.iso

Reply #7 – 19 June 2021, 22:38:41

we removed midori from artix because is dead, use epiphany instead, need no gnome deps, and is active developed.

~~xfce4-timer-plugin can i import, if not imported to artix~~ imported

orage is dead too, same as midori, and moved to AUR = will not imported to artix
https://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?pid=61008#p61008

aria2 is dead too, no chance for import

engrampa is imported and should works with thunar via thunar-archive-plugin (it's only optional dep)

zeitgeist will be imported to artix

Re: General question AUR Packages in artix-xfce-openrc-20210426-x86_64.iso

Reply #8 – 19 June 2021, 23:20:38

Thank you.

Quote from: alium – on 19 June 2021, 22:38:41

we removed midori from artix because is dead,

But not in the ISO

This is the "Problem". It is really irritating, when a Artix Iso install AUR by default.
This AUR were installed with the actual xfce-openrc iso

https://iso.artixlinux.org/iso/artix-xfce-openrc-20210426-x86_64.iso

I don't want midori. Which Distri install that browser by default? I use tor, jonDoFox, Firefox with different profiles, because FF I can modifie very good https://www.privacy-handbuch.de/ and have some good addons.

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use epihany instead, need no gnome deps, and is active developed.

I never heard epihany and don't know this.
May be you like to use epihany in the next Isos? The Browser I want to use I choose myself and uninstall the default browser if I don't want him.

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xfce4-timer-plugin can i import, if not imported to artix

The timer-plugin from xfce were installed by default vom iso.

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orage is dead too, same as midori, and moved to AUR = will not imported to artix
https://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?pid=61008#p61008

I don't need orage. It was installed by default with xfce-iso

I removed midori and orage.
I just wanted to know if this is normal, that an Artix Iso install AUR.
And which of them I can uninstall, because not needed from system.

I suspect that I don't need aria2 because I don't use torrent.
I suspect zeitgeist I need, resp. can be useful?

Re: General question AUR Packages in artix-xfce-openrc-20210426-x86_64.iso

Reply #9 – 19 June 2021, 23:31:07

midori was removed before 1 month, you use too old iso,

xfce4-timer-plugin was not imported in artix , i imported it today

old ISO we support no more, use actually ISO for discuss

closing

Re: General question AUR Packages in artix-xfce-openrc-20210426-x86_64.iso

Reply #10 – 19 June 2021, 23:38:02

Quote from: alium – on 19 June 2021, 23:31:07

midori was removed before 1 month, you use too old iso,

And where do I find the actual?

You say often and with pleasure people should read the wiki and mainpage.

If I look there https://artixlinux.org/ on the right side

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Development

Sources
ISO Releases

and then klick to ISO Releases https://iso.artixlinux.org/isos.php
I only find Isos from April

Ore here? This site is not found over the Mainpage. I found this with https://metager.de/meta/meta.ger3?eingabe=artix+iso+download&submit-query=&focus=web&s=&f=&ff=&ft=&m=
https://artixlinux.org/download.php

artix-xfce-openrc-20210426-x86_64.iso 1.1 GB 2021-04-26 02:26:37

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xfce4-timer-plugin was not imported in artix , i imported it today

It was in the panel by first intall the Iso!! That is fact,

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old ISO we support no more, use actually ISO for discuss

closing

Very friendly

Hmm what a luck that Artix is an RR and old Isos are not so important, when the system is updated.
Ok, it is my fault, if I use the Link from Mainpage to the Isos.

Re: [SOLVED] General question AUR Packages in artix-xfce-openrc-20210426-x86_64.iso

Reply #11 – 19 June 2021, 23:49:25

https://artixlinux.org/download.php weekly isos

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More up-to-date ISO images are provided in the weekly builds below.

2 months old ISO in rolling-release model are objectively too old, given how many packages are updated daily.

what you want to discuss more? all your problems have been solved, or not?

your question "Is it possible that following AUR are installed by default?" was answered.

We support no AUR (some packages from AUR are in universe), you mentioned packages are from old iso, much has changed during that time since april 2021. so I think the reason for "closing" is understandable.

Re: [SOLVED] General question AUR Packages in artix-xfce-openrc-20210426-x86_64.iso

Reply #12 – 19 June 2021, 23:55:06

And where do I find the actual?

You say often and with pleasure people should read the wiki and mainpage.

If I look there https://artixlinux.org/ on the right side

and then klick to ISO Releases https://iso.artixlinux.org/isos.php
I only find Isos from April

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xfce4-timer-plugin was not imported in artix , i imported it today

It was in the panel by first intall the Iso!! That is fact,

Very friendly

Hmm what a luck that Artix is an RR and old Isos are not so important, when the system is updated.
Ok, it is my fault, if I use the Link from Mainpage to the Isos.

Re: [SOLVED] General question AUR Packages in artix-xfce-openrc-20210426-x86_64.iso

Reply #13 – 19 June 2021, 23:59:40

Update:

I found the Downloadpage with actual ISOS with https://metager.de/meta/meta.ger3?eingabe=artix+iso+download&submit-query=&focus=web&s=&f=&ff=&ft=&m=

https://iso.artixlinux.org/weekly-isos.php

But on which Artix-Site, Mainpage do I find this Link?

Re: [SOLVED] General question AUR Packages in artix-xfce-openrc-20210426-x86_64.iso

Reply #14 – 20 June 2021, 00:12:44

https://docs.xfce.org/panel-plugins/xfce4-timer-plugin/start
on your picture is no timer plugin, but datetime plugin for xfce, also another plugin...

link you can find under https://artixlinux.org/download.php
or on mainpage on top is big wrote Download