Hi all,
I have read and noted that the Arch repositories are disabled by default and in principle, I find this step logical and understandable, especially with regard to systemd.
But I would still like to know if a program like Firefox will be included in the Artix repositories soon.
I don't mean a fork like librewolf or dragonfly and certainly not ungoogled-chromium, but the original Firefox.
Thanks in advance.
Many greetings
Roberto
Why not privacy-respecting forks? I found this website an eye opener when it comes to browser privacy: https://digdeeper.neocities.org/ghost/browsers.html
Also check this page about Firefox: https://digdeeper.neocities.org/ghost/mozilla.html
You can enable 'extra' and 'community' Arch repos and take the packages from there in your Artix installation. There are plenty of packages in those repos which you need in order to build a fully-featured system, that's not only Firefox.
BTW there is firefox-esr in the 'universe' Artix repository, which I use. Those 'unofficial' Artix repos are quite interesting and definitely worth using on a desktop system.
i personally use firedragon, and i see no difference between firedragon and Firefox regarding browsing. all websites works perfectly, drm works, as bonus less spy from Google...
but i agree with victorBrand. here is no reason have disabled archlinux repo. if you want use firefox or another programs from archlinux, just enable archlinux repos. i personally want never to have disable archlinux repos... i want have archlinux without systemd
Please don't get me wrong, I have nothing against forks that respect privacy, quite the opposite.
It's just always a fine line between safety and comfort or even appealing optics.
I also know that I can include the Arch repositories again, but I don't want to do that in principle.
I just wanted to know if it is planned.
Thank you all for your opinions and assessments.
Many greetings
Roberto
Regarding those "privacy-respecting" browsers one must be aware that due to growing social demand in privacy there are a lot of baits, hoaxes and scam around this theme. Not every claim about "respecting privacy" should be believed.
There are a couple of good reviews (or rather surveys) on this topic, I'd recommend reading this article:
https://unixsheikh.com/articles/choose-your-browser-carefully.html
According to the article, best privacy-oriented browsers are GNU IceCat and then tweaked Firefox. Librewolf (still?) has some issues with "phoning home" and accessing cdn servers on startup.
And here is a guide on tweaking Firefox towards privacy:
https://12bytes.org/articles/tech/firefox/the-firefox-privacy-guide-for-dummies/
A common guide on Firerox tweaking:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Firefox/Tweaks
I would again point out that this is not a true statement.
It purely depends on your perception of a "fully featured system".
With regards to firefox, we gonna add a default browser, but if it will be FF or maybe brave browser, or even another one hasn't been decided yet. We not gonna add multiple browsers though, because they all tend to be resource hungry monsters to compile.
Reading what is described and written on this website, the only logical consequence is ... to uninstall the Internet. :o
If you are aiming at minimalism, I think the default should be what's already included on the LiveUSB images - midori, with Librewolf, ungoogled-chromium etc kept in universe like they are now.
I'd strongly advise against Brave, as in addition to spying on its users, it tries to promote its own cryptocurrency in a suspicious manner. I know Luke Smith is trying to promote it, but the page I quoted has more details on it, as well as the subreddit of Uphold (https://www.reddit.com/r/uphold/), the company supporting the BAT. Brave rewards themselves require sending government ID and detailed personal information, there is no trace of anonymity nor privacy.
If you want 100% privacy, that's true, but still we should aim to be as close to that 100% as realistically possible.
That's true.
Currently, I'm using ungoogled-chromium with uBlock Origin, HTTPSAnywhere, Canvas Blocker and other privacy addons as my default browser. I was using Librewolf briefly, but it doesn't support dark mode setting.
You are right, but remember that you can monitor traffic on your network, just as the bloggers have done. The digdeeper neocities site mentioned above has a write-up on how to view the https traffic generated by a browser using mitm-proxy. A person interested in using a browser, especially one that makes lofty privacy claims should at least cursorily test for themselves.
I have tried and tested Firedragon extensively and I can confirm, that this browser is a very good alternative for the previously used Firefox.
If someone can tell me how to teach the browser to stay in full screen on startup, I might switch to Firedragon. :)
greets
Roberto
You might want to check out a tiling window manager (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiling_window_manager) like dwm.
@Roberto What do you miss in the ESR FF from the Artix Repos?
Do you know this sites? For me they are the best if you use FF. (They are in german language ;) )
https://www.kuketz-blog.de/
https://www.privacy-handbuch.de/
Kuketz analyse different Browsers. This man is really great.
Have fun greetings TM
about:config
look for entry "privacy.resistFingerprinting" this must be "false".
i find firedragon much better as default set up librewolf, it's my main browser now and i searched this option too, @Roberto 😅
Hi thats_me,
I don't like to use firefox-esr so much because it is at version 78.
I like the new design of version 89 and for this reason I test firedragon and also librewolf.
Many greetings
Roberto
I installed Aritx by VirtualBox on April 28. On this date, I installed firefox browser with Pacman. Yesterday I installed the Artix on my machine definitively, but I can't find the firefox.
I enabled the Arch repository (pacman -Syu artix-archlinux-support).
And I'm trying to find any browser ( I saw the list on the ArchWiki) but I couldn't find any. (icecat, firefox, seamonkey, cliqz, librewolf, etc). What am I doing wrong?
$ sudo pacman -Ssv firefox
[sudo] password for ****:
Root : /
Conf File : /etc/pacman.conf
DB Path : /var/lib/pacman/
Cache Dirs: /var/cache/pacman/pkg/
Hook Dirs : /usr/share/libalpm/hooks/ /etc/pacman.d/hooks/
Lock File : /var/lib/pacman/db.lck
Log File : /var/log/pacman.log
GPG Dir : /etc/pacman.d/gnupg/
Targets : firefox
world/dump_syms 0.0.7-1
Symbol dumper for Firefox
galaxy/otf-fira-mono 2:3.206-4
Mozilla's monospace typeface designed for Firefox OS
galaxy/otf-fira-sans 1:4.301-2
Mozilla's sans-serif typeface designed for Firefox OS
galaxy/ttf-fira-mono 2:3.206-4
Mozilla's monospace typeface designed for Firefox OS
galaxy/ttf-fira-sans 1:4.301-2
Mozilla's sans-serif typeface designed for Firefox OS
luke-virtualbox:[luke]:~$ sudo pacman -Ssv icecat
Root : /
Conf File : /etc/pacman.conf
DB Path : /var/lib/pacman/
Cache Dirs: /var/cache/pacman/pkg/
Hook Dirs : /usr/share/libalpm/hooks/ /etc/pacman.d/hooks/
Lock File : /var/lib/pacman/db.lck
Log File : /var/log/pacman.log
GPG Dir : /etc/pacman.d/gnupg/
Targets : icecat
$ sudo pacman -Ss seamonkey
$ sudo pacman -Ss cliqz
$ sudo pacman -Ss librewolf
$ sudo pacman -Ss firefox-esr
I installed any other applications with these commands (like emcas).
Which browser is available for Artix to do you recommend? Because I didn't find any
You need to enable the repositories in pacman.conf.
https://wiki.artixlinux.org/Main/Repositories
Hello! I tryed this. Since artix made the thing with arch-repos, I susseccfully used firefox-esr & icecat on void-linux musl. But after an update, I lost my 2nd browser icecat. It's not anymore in void repos :(
Now I tryed to install it on artix. Without sussecc.
I've wrote the system, world, galaxy, extra, community, universe and omniverse to /etc/pacman.conf
And could install librewolf. But the 2nd browser I want to use is gnuzilla icecat. I know it's in the AUR. But I still can't install it. Allways I try it, I get follow message
What i make wrong to install icecat? Can help someone how to install it?
If not yet done you need to install the package artix-archlinux-support.
You can also find Firefox in https://wiki.artixlinux.org/Main/Repositories#Omniverse
He´s searching for Icecat
@Artist.
To install Icecat from the AUR, either you do that manually using makepkg - see Arch wiki for details - or install an AUR helper with makepkg, then use (helpername) -S icecat-bin just like you would use pacman.
Something like (replace aur-pkg-name of course):
$ git clone https://aur.archlinux.org/aur-pkg-name.git
$ cd aur-pkg-name
$ makepkg -si
But Icecat is very outdated, last release was 2019, it looks like an abandoned project. It has been removed from the Arch repos and is now only an AUR package. It would not be recommended for online use as it has not been getting security updates. If you install icecat (not icecat-bin) then you will get exactly the same version, but built from source code which is going to take a long while to download and compile.
Ouuu!! Used void linux, I forgot that the aur pkgs are installing with makepkg -si.)))
Thanks to all after some hours of compiling I get it =))
Hello I installed firefox 103.02 in a newly installed xfce Artix.
My pacman.conf is default.
#
# /etc/pacman.conf
#
# See the pacman.conf(5) manpage for option and repository directives
#
# GENERAL OPTIONS
#
[options]
# The following paths are commented out with their default values listed.
# If you wish to use different paths, uncomment and update the paths.
#RootDir = /
#DBPath = /var/lib/pacman/
#CacheDir = /var/cache/pacman/pkg/
#LogFile = /var/log/pacman.log
#GPGDir = /etc/pacman.d/gnupg/
#HookDir = /etc/pacman.d/hooks/
HoldPkg = pacman glibc
#XferCommand = /usr/bin/curl -L -C - -f -o %o %u
#XferCommand = /usr/bin/wget --passive-ftp -c -O %o %u
#CleanMethod = KeepInstalled
Architecture = auto
# Pacman won't upgrade packages listed in IgnorePkg and members of IgnoreGroup
#IgnorePkg =
#IgnoreGroup =
#NoUpgrade =
#NoExtract =
# Misc options
#UseSyslog
#Color
#NoProgressBar
CheckSpace
#VerbosePkgLists
#ParallelDownloads = 5
# By default, pacman accepts packages signed by keys that its local keyring
# trusts (see pacman-key and its man page), as well as unsigned packages.
SigLevel = Required DatabaseOptional
LocalFileSigLevel = Optional
#RemoteFileSigLevel = Required
# NOTE: You must run `pacman-key --init` before first using pacman; the local
# keyring can then be populated with the keys of all official Artix Linux
# packagers with `pacman-key --populate artix`.
#
# REPOSITORIES
# - can be defined here or included from another file
# - pacman will search repositories in the order defined here
# - local/custom mirrors can be added here or in separate files
# - repositories listed first will take precedence when packages
# have identical names, regardless of version number
# - URLs will have $repo replaced by the name of the current repo
# - URLs will have $arch replaced by the name of the architecture
#
# Repository entries are of the format:
# [repo-name]
# Server = ServerName
# Include = IncludePath
#
# The header [repo-name] is crucial - it must be present and
# uncommented to enable the repo.
#
# The gremlins repositories are disabled by default. To enable, uncomment the
# repo name header and Include lines. You can add preferred servers immediately
# after the header, and they will be used before the default mirrors.
#[gremlins]
#Include = /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist
[system]
Include = /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist
[world]
Include = /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist
#[galaxy-gremlins]
#Include = /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist
[galaxy]
Include = /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist
# If you want to run 32 bit applications on your x86_64 system,
# enable the lib32 repositories as required here.
#[lib32-gremlins]
#Include = /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist
#[lib32]
#Include = /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist
# An example of a custom package repository. See the pacman manpage for
# tips on creating your own repositories.
#[custom]
#SigLevel = Optional TrustAll
#Server = file:///home/custompkgs
No need to bump this thread, Drito. Last post was almost a year old. Firefox has been added to the official repos since then.