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Artix Linux => Installation / Migration / Configuration => Topic started by: sendhelp on 26 April 2022, 14:15:25

Title: How do i connect to a wirelles internet network?
Post by: sendhelp on 26 April 2022, 14:15:25
The wiki says i have to connect to wi-fi by myself during the installation. Even tho it doesn't say how to do it....
Title: Re: How do i connect to a wirelles internet network?
Post by: strajder on 26 April 2022, 14:22:21
"By myself" assumes not telling you how to do it, by definition. But that is still a false assessment of the wiki article in question:

https://wiki.artixlinux.org/Main/Installation#Connect_to_the_internet
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A working internet connection is required and assumed. A wired connection is setup automatically, if found. Wireless ones must be configured by the user. Verify your connection before you proceed. If you want connect through a wireless interface you should use wpa_supplicant and dhcpcd to set it up.

Next step is to go to Arch wiki and search for wpa_supplicant (https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Wpa_supplicant).

Artix is not a handholding distribution. A certain level of "getting around" and "googling" skills are assumed from the user.

Update: This is documented in a post by our temporarily retired member, alium:
https://forum.artixlinux.org/index.php/topic,1923.0.html
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What to do if I have a problem:
  • First go through wiki.archlinux.org and wiki.artixlinux.org and use the relevant parts (all except the systemd commands on the archlinux wiki) to set up your system really correctly.
  • Look at the internet to see if anyone has had a similar error (at least 90% of problems have already been solved on the internet before you) - often a question of 5 minutes before solving it here for days and peoples here will look at the internet anyway :-)
  • Follow the announcements on the main page at artixlinux / archlinux too
Title: Re: How do i connect to a wirelles internet network?
Post by: sendhelp on 26 April 2022, 14:59:40
Quote from: strajder – on
"By myself" assumes not telling you how to do it, by definition. But that is still a false assessment of the wiki article in question:

https://wiki.artixlinux.org/Main/Installation#Connect_to_the_internet
Next step is to go to Arch wiki and search for wpa_supplicant (https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Wpa_supplicant).

Artix is not a handholding distribution. A certain level of "getting around" and "googling" skills are assumed from the user.

Update: This is documented in a post by our temporarily retired member, alium:
https://forum.artixlinux.org/index.php/topic,1923.0.html
I tried googling, but it didn't help me. So i decided to ask here. I'm familliar that it isn't a 'handholding' distro. I've already used arch for a long time so i know a bit
Title: Re: How do i connect to a wirelles internet network?
Post by: cat herders of linux on 26 April 2022, 15:17:51
You used arch Linux before?  Did you install it yourself?  Did you use WiFi or Ethernet during your arch install?  If you have followed the arch instructions for setting up WiFi during your arch install, do they not work also with artix?  You could literally just google the arch install instructions.

https://itsfoss.com/install-arch-linux/

https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Installation_guide
Title: Re: How do i connect to a wirelles internet network?
Post by: sendhelp on 26 April 2022, 15:37:15
Quote from: cat herders of linux – on
You used arch Linux before?  Did you install it yourself?  Did you use WiFi or Ethernet during your arch install?  If you have followed the arch instructions for setting up WiFi during your arch install, do they not work also with artix?  You could literally just google the arch install instructions.

https://itsfoss.com/install-arch-linux/

https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Installation_guide
I've installed arch following the wiki, connected to the internet using iwctl in it. Tho i did a bit of a diagnosing and ended up in finding out that it just doesn't have the right interface. I fired up ubuntu live iso and it had wlp3s0 and enp4s0. While artix live iso only has eth0 and lo. I'm not sure what to do with that
Title: Re: How do i connect to a wirelles internet network?
Post by: calvinh on 26 April 2022, 16:40:06
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I've installed arch following the wiki, connected to the internet using iwctl in it. Tho i did a bit of a diagnosing and ended up in finding out that it just doesn't have the right interface. I fired up ubuntu live iso and it had wlp3s0 and enp4s0. While artix live iso only has eth0 and lo. I'm not sure what to do with that

firmware & driver are not installed for your wireless card. Boot into Ubuntu live iso and find out what firmware & driver are used for wlp3s0 and install them in your Artix system.
Title: Re: How do i connect to a wirelles internet network?
Post by: strajder on 26 April 2022, 17:39:31
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I've installed arch following the wiki, connected to the internet using iwctl in it. Tho i did a bit of a diagnosing and ended up in finding out that it just doesn't have the right interface. I fired up ubuntu live iso and it had wlp3s0 and enp4s0. While artix live iso only has eth0 and lo. I'm not sure what to do with that
Artix doesn't use the "predictable interface names" (https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames/) (I would rather call them "confusing") in use by "mainstream" distros, by default. Instead, it uses traditional interface names which were happily used for many years before such things as systemd, snap, flatpak, and so on. Thus, "wlan0" is the WiFi interface name in Artix. "eth0" is the Ethernet, "lo" is loopback.

Again, don't use iwd/iwctl but wpa_supplicant, as indicated in the wiki.

Update: I have updated the wiki article (https://wiki.artixlinux.org/Main/Installation#Connect_to_the_Internet) with additional clarifications and a table of interface names.
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