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General Category => Off-Topic => Topic started by: cat herders of linux on 03 November 2023, 01:11:23

Title: professional linux
Post by: cat herders of linux on 03 November 2023, 01:11:23
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlUFXUA9R48
Title: Re: professional linux
Post by: cat herders of linux on 03 November 2023, 11:31:31
I have to say that i very much enjoy listening to his opinions.  He's thoughtful and precise.
Title: Re: professional linux
Post by: replabrobin on 03 November 2023, 13:17:40
I also enjoyed this from Klaus Knopper https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnocTSYgurc
Title: Re: professional linux
Post by: cat herders of linux on 03 November 2023, 18:12:30
sadly i'm a stupid american that barely speaks english.  i have no chance with a german speaker...  i saw the banner defying systemd..  sehr gut!
Title: Re: professional linux
Post by: replabrobin on 04 November 2023, 10:38:33
I have poor German even after having an Austrian wife. Luckily with the help of the English slides I could make out most of his main points.

The knoppix desire to remove systemd stems from the problems that parallel starting causes real difficulties for a distribution that is/was often used from a slow medium because CDs have only a single read point. Knoppix prefers a linear start order.

Tight coupling of the systemd components seemed to be the main obstacle to the removal of systemd as init. Systemd is too complex for most purposes.

Interesting, but probably now dated as we have several mainstream distros that have done the work eg devuan, artix etc etc ....
Title: Re: professional linux
Post by: lq on 04 November 2023, 10:41:25
  i have no chance with a german speaker...
Title: Re: professional linux
Post by: cat herders of linux on 04 November 2023, 18:22:30
well i gave up as soon as i heard him speak german... 

so is knoppix systemd free now?  its been 5 years since video was recorded...
Title: Re: professional linux
Post by: replabrobin on 04 November 2023, 20:41:31
so is knoppix systemd free now?  its been 5 years since video was recorded...
distrowatch says knoppix is 'dormant', the knoppix page https://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=knoppix says it went through a few versions with init==systemd, but the last two versions use knoppix-autoconfig which i think is busybox-init.