Since a few weeks, i cannot install artix xfce or cinnamon and start evolution.
Clicking on the appsymbol - nothing happens.
Starting from terminal - dbind errors are shown, something with "no permission".
starting from terminal with sudo - nuspell and four more are missing. after installing the missing files, evolution starts with sudo only one time. After reboot same problem.
With kde no problems, but i dont like the plasma desktop:-)
is it a sign from above to stay with peppermint? i dont know, but artix was running before on this laptop with the version from september 23 very well.
certainly i am overlooking something, but what?
I install artix from 08/23 or the weekly builds, no difference. Evolution is not starting.
sometimes a message with an I/O error is coming, but only very short...
laptop is the same. on a second laptop the same problems, both from lenovo.
artix is working, everything i need, but not evolution.
but when i try plasma, evolution works. so the problem is not evolution, or?
what can i try?
Post the terminal output on a pastebin (https://paste.artixlinux.org). Using strace(1) is another nice way to see where it fails.
this is the terminal output, when i start evolution.
(evolution:3043): dbind-WARNING **: 19:22:28.572: Couldn't connect to accessibility bus: Failed to connect to socket /run/user/979/at-spi/bus_0: Keine Berechtigung
(evolution-alarm-notify:3053): dbind-WARNING **: 19:22:28.826: Couldn't connect to accessibility bus: Failed to connect to socket /run/user/979/at-spi/bus_0: Keine Berechtigung
bwrap: Can't find source path /run/user/979/at-spi: Permission denied
** (evolution:3043): ERROR **: 19:22:29.130: Failed to fully launch dbus-proxy: Der Kindprozess wurde mit Status 1 beendet
Trace/Breakpoint ausgelöst
This when i start with sudo:
(evolution:3711): Gtk-WARNING **: 19:25:50.769: Creating a portal monitor failed: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.UnknownMethod: Keine derartige Schnittstelle »org.freedesktop.portal.Inhibit« des Objekts im Pfad /org/freedesktop/portal/desktop
is it helpful?
Does it start with dbus-launch?
no, same error messages...
i have tried this from the troubleshooting tipps:
pacman -S dnsmasq-openrc
rc-update add dnsmasq default
rc-service dnsmasq start
then evolution ist starting and working, but after reboot i have to do it again.
so a problem with openRC?
same with dinit ...
I don't use this application regularly but it started up normally for me when I tried it just now.
I suspect this is your problem. I have no messages like this in my terminal. For whatever reason, this socket doesn't appear to exist on your machine.
thinkpad here, stable .iso with cinnamon, evolution as the mail client. Been loaded for a couple of months and all good for Evolution here (did a full update then reboot just to make sure). One last thing, no gtk warning if started from the terminal. Something funky going on there.
i give up, i tried all gtk versions. no way, evolution don´t start. second laptop too. one t470, one yoga.
i stay with peppermint devuan, a little bit old, but working.
i have already invest too much time. the laptop has to work.
thank you very much for your efforts!!
I don't understand what you mean by "tried all gtk versions". It's a gtk3 application. There's no other versions to try.
i have no idea, what the problem was.
i tried garuda with systemd, evolution works.
so i thought, evolution is not the problem, and my laptop is also not the problem.
then i tried artix with plasma, evolution works.
so i thought, the problem is perhaps the desktop environment.
and then i tried all of them.
this is what i mean with "all gtk versions" (ok, not really correct)
xfce - evolution is not working
mate - not working
cinnamon not working. everythime exactly the same errors.
interestingly, lxde and lxqt are only starting after installing and updating with -Syu with the terminal.
so i thought, it must be the laptop and try an unused nvme in my lenovo x1 thinkpad. but also, artix xfce and evolution are not working togehther.
when i take artix 2023-08, then installing is perfect, no problems. great for a rolling distro, as i understand. no problems.
i do a -Syu after installing, reboot, install evolution and firefox, then reboot and testing evolution. if i click on the button "email" i choose evolution and get an I/E error. If i start evolution with the terminal, i get the errors written above.
installing with the weekly build is not so simple, everytime i have problems with the keys.
so i do first pacman-key --init, then pacman-key --populate, and then a -Syu. after reboot installing evolution and testing. same problems.
ich bin mit meinem Latein am Ende, in german, i dont know, what to do.
i have the feeling, that i`m overlooking something simple. artix was working before on this laptop, but i have no idea, where my mistake is.
i want a modern distro without systemd. so i am here. but i come to my limit...
so thanks for helping!
ich würde mit
export NO_AT_BRIDGE=1 versuchen.
ok, this helps a bit, a lot of ther errors are now gone.
nevertheless evolution is not starting.
per accident i find out, that all gnome-apps dont work. seahorse, cheese, everytime the same error:
failed to connect to socket /run/user/976 ... no permission.
so i checked this folder with thunar - i can only open it as root. is this right?
perhaps it is something with permissions?
on devuan no folder 976 exists, only 1000.
on artix there is a 976 and a 1000 under /run/user/.
the 1000 permission is me, the 976 permission lightdm. is this right?
here is the new error from evolution after writing "export..." to bash.profile
bwrap: can`t find source path/run/user/976/at-spi: permission denied
It probably needs your actual user which is normally 1000. I have no idea why the application appears to be looking for the lightdm user's ID but I would not expect that to work. As a workaround, you could try not using a display manager.
Replace the
lightdm with
lxdm and you will have no problems with
evolution.
perfect!!!!
lxdm is the solution! everything works!
thanks a lot, i can work with artix!
best wishes and thanks for your tipps and efforts!
Which lxdm ist the right one?
Desktop Xfce with openrc. There are 3 different lxdm.
lxdm (extra, galaxy)
lxdm-gtk3 (extra, galaxy)
lxdm-openrc (world)
Repo galaxy is the one, and pkgs lxdm and lxdm-gtk are from the same (lxdm) base pkg, with the latter as gtk flavor.
The lxdm- ones in world are the Artix init pkgs for lxdm.
Extra is from Arch, so should normally not be used.
artist
Thank you.
But which one do I need?
gtk3, openrc, oder lxdm?
Use lxdm from galaxy, or lxdm-gtk3 from galaxy if you prefer the gtk look.
lxdm-openrc is for the lxdm startup service, as in https://wiki.artixlinux.org/Main/OpenRC
artist