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Title: Elon on cobol
Post by: n00b on 15 February 2025, 01:12:02
um...
Title: Re: Elon on cobol
Post by: corysanin on 15 February 2025, 07:21:07
Can't stand these new DEI hires
Title: Re: Elon on cobol
Post by: nous on 15 February 2025, 10:57:14
Yeah, no.
Title: Re: Elon on cobol
Post by: n00b on 15 February 2025, 17:07:31
Ha. guy says "It is not public knowledge" then says what date system is with confidence, for a system older than his dad.

edit to add wiki link
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_8601#Dates

So... Ya, yes?
Title: Re: Elon on cobol
Post by: nous on 15 February 2025, 18:57:15
He clearly said 'the more reasonable assumption'.
Title: Re: Elon on cobol
Post by: n00b on 15 February 2025, 19:46:32
Yes, he did, with a level of confidence that seems rather unearned, and does in no way explain Elon's "150 year old" stupidity, right?

Toshi's assertion works with an older it system, as SSA has, and works with Elon's error. Mr. Allen's assertion has nothing to back it up other than a different premise.
Title: Re: Elon on cobol
Post by: nous on 17 February 2025, 20:56:59
Don't jump to conclusions (https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1891557463377490431) and be happy dead people and their relatives won't siphon out your money anymore.

(https://i.imgur.com/F0Eb3it.png)

(https://cdn.xcancel.com/pic/2B45CA2AC4BC5/media%2FGkAsVK3awAAshXI.jpg%3Fname%3Dsmall%26format%3Dwebp)
Title: Re: Elon on cobol
Post by: just_jed on 18 February 2025, 02:30:38
While I realize the underlying issues are anything but, as a guy who started writing COBOL in 1981, on an IBM 360 in school, I'm a little bit amused. Punch cards, baby!
Title: Re: Elon on cobol
Post by: corysanin on 18 February 2025, 17:07:56
The SSA already terminates benefit payments to anyone over 115 years old (https://secure.ssa.gov/poms.nsf/lnx/0202602578) anyway. Has been the case since 2015. Something Musk should have been aware of before making a lot of noise and siccing his minions on infrastructure they're not qualified to touch. Unless his band of programmers dual-majored in accounting, they really have no business looking at social security.

Now if they want to label the whole thing a ponzi scheme, I'd be in total support of that.
Title: Re: Elon on cobol
Post by: nous on 18 February 2025, 20:20:12
The SSA already terminates benefit payments to anyone over 115 years old (https://secure.ssa.gov/poms.nsf/lnx/0202602578) anyway.
There are all kinds of loopholes in every system, example from the above:
Code: [Select]
T2R does not automatically terminate entitlement for:
    •    Beneficiaries with other claimants active on the record;
I'm not qualified to say what's the most appropriate way to audit such things, I just don't like knee-jerking.
Title: Re: Elon on cobol
Post by: n00b on 19 February 2025, 00:37:58
The SSA already terminates benefit payments to anyone over 115 years old (https://secure.ssa.gov/poms.nsf/lnx/0202602578) anyway.
There are all kinds of loopholes in every system, example from the above:
Code: [Select]
T2R does not automatically terminate entitlement for:
    •    Beneficiaries with other claimants active on the record;
I'm not qualified to say what's the most appropriate way to audit such things, I just don't like knee-jerking.
Except that is not what he said, right? Elon said PEOPLE over 115 are getting benefits. Not the surviving spouses or children.

https://nitter.privacydev.net/elonmusk/status/1891557463377490431#m
Elon is a liar. He posts an obviously wrong set of numbers in a spread sheet and his cult goes nuts.

No proof. No evidence. Just a obviously stupid list.

"According to the Social Security database, these are the numbers of people in each age bucket with the death field set to FALSE! Maybe Twilight is real and there are a lot of vampires collecting Social Security"

Death field set to false? in cobol?

It is a zero. He is a script kiddy, who knows nothing about everything, and less about the system he is lying about.

Elon always shows he has zero technical skill in any field. Prove me wrong.

Literally not one single person over 114 had been paid a dime since 2014.

Elon has no proof otherwise. If he did he would post it.

He claims stupid shit and his NAZI cult lap it up.

His obsession with the 14 words is all you need to know. That is enough to knee jerk him to the balls.

You don't like knee jerking? But sig heils are just fine?
Title: Re: Elon on cobol
Post by: gripped on 19 February 2025, 00:59:40
@n00b
So do you like Elon or not?

Stop sitting on the fence.
Title: Re: Elon on cobol
Post by: ####### on 19 February 2025, 02:54:36
https://www.ussc.gov/research/quick-facts/government-benefits-fraud (https://www.ussc.gov/research/quick-facts/government-benefits-fraud)
Benefits fraud is an ongoing problem as the annual convictions for this crime reveal, and removing non-existent people from the database will at least close one possible weakness to exploit. High level corruption, organized crime gangs and inside agents could all potentially be involved, and probably have been at various times, given that page says sentences were increased for:
...
a leadership or supervisory role in the offense (9.3%);
abusing a public position of trust or using a special skill (3.7%);
...

Title: Re: Elon on cobol
Post by: n00b on 19 February 2025, 18:17:30
https://www.ussc.gov/research/quick-facts/government-benefits-fraud (https://www.ussc.gov/research/quick-facts/government-benefits-fraud)
Benefits fraud is an ongoing problem as the annual convictions for this crime reveal, and removing non-existent people from the database will at least close one possible weakness to exploit. High level corruption, organized crime gangs and inside agents could all potentially be involved, and probably have been at various times, given that page says sentences were increased for:
...
a leadership or supervisory role in the offense (9.3%);
abusing a public position of trust or using a special skill (3.7%);
...


But not really, right?
https://www.crfb.org/press-releases/fact-sheet-how-much-waste-fraud-and-abuse-there-social-security

SS fraud (0.84%) is at a rate any insurance company would kill for. Or really any company.

Elon is burning tens of millions chasing pennies, when the defense department is right there.
Literally 50% of US discretionary spending is the defence department, and it HAS NEVER PASSED AN AUDIT!

He is a fucking idiot, if you believe the reasons he gives. Or he lies. You choose.

Also they fired the guy who actually found fraud in SS, so...


 
Title: Re: Elon on cobol
Post by: nous on 21 February 2025, 22:09:02
Except that is not what he said, right? Elon said PEOPLE over 115 are getting benefits. Not the surviving spouses or children.
In this case it's great-grandchidren.

Elon is a liar. He posts an obviously wrong set of numbers in a spread sheet and his cult goes nuts.
No proof. No evidence. Just a obviously stupid list.
"According to the Social Security database, these are the numbers of people in each age bucket with the death field set to FALSE! Maybe Twilight is real and there are a lot of vampires collecting Social Security"
Death field set to false? in cobol?
It is a zero. He is a script kiddy, who knows nothing about everything, and less about the system he is lying about.
Elon always shows he has zero technical skill in any field. Prove me wrong.
Literally not one single person over 114 had been paid a dime since 2014.
Elon has no proof otherwise. If he did he would post it.
He claims stupid shit and his NAZI cult lap it up.
His obsession with the 14 words is all you need to know. That is enough to knee jerk him to the balls.
You sound obsessed.

You don't like knee jerking? But sig heils are just fine?
What kind of deranged people raise their arms expressively or excitedly (https://files.catbox.moe/9u6afd.mp4)?

(https://files.catbox.moe/7383a7.jpg)
Title: Re: Elon on cobol
Post by: metwo on 02 March 2025, 19:05:08
Except that is not what he said, right? Elon said PEOPLE over 115 are getting benefits. Not the surviving spouses or children.
In this case it's great-grandchidren.

Elon is a liar. He posts an obviously wrong set of numbers in a spread sheet and his cult goes nuts.
No proof. No evidence. Just a obviously stupid list.
"According to the Social Security database, these are the numbers of people in each age bucket with the death field set to FALSE! Maybe Twilight is real and there are a lot of vampires collecting Social Security"
Death field set to false? in cobol?
It is a zero. He is a script kiddy, who knows nothing about everything, and less about the system he is lying about.
Elon always shows he has zero technical skill in any field. Prove me wrong.
Literally not one single person over 114 had been paid a dime since 2014.
Elon has no proof otherwise. If he did he would post it.
He claims stupid shit and his NAZI cult lap it up.
His obsession with the 14 words is all you need to know. That is enough to knee jerk him to the balls.
You sound obsessed.

You don't like knee jerking? But sig heils are just fine?
What kind of deranged people raise their arms expressively or excitedly (https://files.catbox.moe/9u6afd.mp4)?

(https://files.catbox.moe/7383a7.jpg)

Very dishonest to post stills like that.
Title: Re: Elon on cobol
Post by: cat herders of linux on 02 March 2025, 20:02:18
well i'm 57 1/2 years old and when i have lived another 57 1/2 years i'll be able to prove beyond any doubt whether or not my social security auto shuts off at 115.  And given my much success in having lived 57 1/2 years once, i have proven my ability to do it and i have every confidence i can do that twice!  so there.
Title: Re: Elon on cobol
Post by: nous on 02 March 2025, 20:11:25
Very dishonest to post stills like that.
How about an animated one? This one looks even more fervent than Musk.

(https://files.catbox.moe/4of2vm.gif)
Title: Re: Elon on cobol
Post by: Shoun2137 on 03 March 2025, 07:21:07
Very dishonest to post stills like that.
How about an animated one? This one looks even more fervent than Musk.

(https://files.catbox.moe/4of2vm.gif)
Watch out there, he'll say it's AI and fake news! Haha.
Title: Re: Elon on cobol
Post by: metwo on 03 March 2025, 20:53:03
(https://www.mundodeportivo.com/us/files/image_948_465/uploads/2025/01/21/678feafa54795.jpeg)
Title: Re: Elon on cobol
Post by: nous on 04 March 2025, 12:38:18
(https://www.mundodeportivo.com/us/files/image_948_465/uploads/2025/01/21/678feafa54795.jpeg)
Very dishonest to post shoppes like that.
Title: Re: Elon on cobol
Post by: artoo on 05 March 2025, 10:11:04
(https://www.mundodeportivo.com/us/files/image_948_465/uploads/2025/01/21/678feafa54795.jpeg)
Very dishonest to post shoppes like that.

Stop these intolerable micro-aggression. I am fainting.