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General Category => Other distros => Topic started by: mrbrklyn on 09 July 2025, 03:16:49

Title: Fedora and Xlibre
Post by: mrbrklyn on 09 July 2025, 03:16:49
https://www.linuxtoday.com/blog/xlibre-proposed-as-fedoras-new-default-x11-server/


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Well, this one really caught me off guard. As you probably know, after the dramatic fork of the Xorg server into a new project called XLibre—led by the developer who’s been its most active contributor in recent years—the open-source community was buzzing with intense debate. And now, there’s another twist in the story.
Title: Re: Fedora and Xlibre
Post by: cds on 09 July 2025, 03:49:17
This would be good, unfortunately, it was already voted down.
Title: Re: Fedora and Xlibre
Post by: mrbrklyn on 09 July 2025, 05:05:48
Baby steps

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yl6s6DGapug
Title: Re: Fedora and Xlibre
Post by: sudo_halt on 20 July 2025, 18:11:57
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This would be good, unfortunately, it was already voted down.
Not voted, it was withdrawn by the proposer.
Title: Re: Fedora and Xlibre
Post by: gripped on 20 July 2025, 18:31:38
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Not voted, it was withdrawn by the proposer.
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Change proposal withdrawn
Considering the overwhelmingly negative feedback, I am hereby withdrawing this Change proposal.

The reasoning is twofold:

1. I have always argued that Changes that are overwhelmingly rejected by the community should not be approved by FESCo. So it would be very hypocritical if I attempted to push this through over the almost entirely negative feedback. I stand by my positions and also apply them to myself.
2. At this point, I believe that this has no chance of being approved by FESCo for Fedora 43, so I do not want to waste everyone's time by continuing this discussion that is not leading anywhere.

I consider the whole proposal some next level 5d chess trolling.
Like never in a million years was Fedora letting the proposal through but it was fun reading them rationalise why not.
Title: Re: Fedora and Xlibre
Post by: sudo_halt on 20 July 2025, 18:39:35
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Not voted, it was withdrawn by the proposer.
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Change proposal withdrawn
Considering the overwhelmingly negative feedback, I am hereby withdrawing this Change proposal.

The reasoning is twofold:

1. I have always argued that Changes that are overwhelmingly rejected by the community should not be approved by FESCo. So it would be very hypocritical if I attempted to push this through over the almost entirely negative feedback. I stand by my positions and also apply them to myself.
2. At this point, I believe that this has no chance of being approved by FESCo for Fedora 43, so I do not want to waste everyone's time by continuing this discussion that is not leading anywhere.

I consider the whole proposal some next level 5d chess trolling.
Like never in a million years was Fedora letting the proposal through but it was fun reading them rationalise why not.

Nobody 'rationalized' it, it would have to go FESCo for that. This guy probably posted that with bad faith anyway, trying to get a rejection, and withdrew it even without that much of a negative reaction.

Nothingburger.
Title: Re: Fedora and Xlibre
Post by: gripped on 20 July 2025, 18:45:34
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Nobody 'rationalized' it,
They did so. :P

Cheeseburger.
Title: Re: Fedora and Xlibre
Post by: sudo_halt on 20 July 2025, 18:52:30
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Nobody 'rationalized' it,
They did so. :P

Cheeseburger.

I am reading the thread again. Here it is if you're interested https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/f43-change-proposal-x11libre-system-wide/156330/4

The negative side of the discussion was: XLibre's lack of long term merit, coding mistakes done by metux in the past, and most importantly, a lack of support for Nvidia by their ABI which they explicitly say is expected to break.

Also, quite a few people were open to the proposal as well, so who knows a FESCo vote would've gone anyway?

Had this been an attempt in good faith, they'd progress it further instead of withdrawing.
Title: Re: Fedora and Xlibre
Post by: metwo on 21 July 2025, 09:52:41
Sometimes using Linux is like being back at school
Title: Re: Fedora and Xlibre
Post by: mrbrklyn on 21 July 2025, 13:57:06
we never leave school.  It is part of being human.
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