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Artix Linux => Announcements => Topic started by: nous on 08 August 2025, 22:34:13

Title: New forum theme
Post by: nous on 08 August 2025, 22:34:13
A new forum theme named Artix, created and curated by @corysanin, is available at the 'Look and Layout' section of user account settings. It shall become the default theme of the forum after a reasonable amount of testing and feedback. Please, use this thread for comments and suggestions. The current default theme (Silence) will of course remain available.
Title: Re: New forum theme
Post by: Shoun2137 on 09 August 2025, 00:09:50
It's alright.
Title: Re: New forum theme
Post by: MaxLPM on 09 August 2025, 09:25:25
It's easier to read and more crispy, I like it!

However, the side buttons on the left (which were almost invisible in the old theme) seem out of place. I think they disturb the balance a bit: there's some space taken up on the left side but non on the right. Personally, I'll just remove them using uBlock for now but it will be interesting to see if anyone uses those buttons/arrows. Maybe it makes sense to remove them completely?

Also, in the CSS, there's a :focus target on ".sceditor-container textarea, .sceditor-container textarea" which makes the message box (which I'm currently typing in) increase the font size to 1em. It's pretty confusing since the text jumps when you try focusing on it, making the position of the cursor weird. Since this wasn't a thing in the old theme, I'd suggest removing the :focus target and just making the font 1em. (by the way, related thread: https://forum.artixlinux.org/index.php/topic,7786.0.html)

But overall, the new theme is wonderful! Thanks, devs :)
Title: Re: New forum theme
Post by: Zendjinn on 09 August 2025, 12:34:19
I like it a lot. It's easier to read overall and makes it easier to see where things are and less confusing than the old default. Also makes use of the screen space which is practical and efficient. Many thanks @corysanin  :)
Title: Re: New forum theme
Post by: Worm_Jim on 09 August 2025, 12:54:25
IMHO

I don't like it! Neither the new theme nor the old one, all other theme on the elkarte platform are physically painful to look at!

Here is an example of how a forum not on the elkarte platform might look:

https://web.archive.org/web/20250515135514/https://archlinux.org.ru/forum/
Title: Re: New forum theme
Post by: rayburn on 09 August 2025, 13:47:43
I don't normally like change, as I'm just an ancient guy who is resistant to change.  :)

However, I quite like the new theme, and will test it for a while to see how it goes.

Many thanks @corysanin .
Title: Re: New forum theme
Post by: clappingsnowdrop on 09 August 2025, 14:43:10
I like the readability improvements. There are some things that needs improvements like contrast and consistency, but overall it's heading in a good direction.

(https://i.postimg.cc/FRdDHnx2/2025-08-09-12-17-40-1920x1080-scrot.png)

(https://i.postimg.cc/xdF6YSLv/2025-08-09-12-17-55-1920x1080-scrot.png)

1st (marked in purple). For the light variant.
I can barely read it in the light/white version. Darken it more please.

2nd (marked in red). For the light variant.
The colors for the normal users seems blend in the background. Either it needs more chroma(less gray-ish/lack in color) or more chroma with lower lightness(making it dark blue).

3rd (marked in orange) For the dark variant.
It's less readable in the dark variant. Make it a bit lighter.
Title: Re: New forum theme
Post by: corysanin on 10 August 2025, 09:07:40
Thanks everyone for the feedback, the good and the bad! I really appreciate it! I incorporated some of the feedback into a new release (https://gitea.artixlinux.org/corysanin/artix-elkarte-theme/releases/tag/v1.2.4).

the side buttons on the left (which were almost invisible in the old theme) seem out of place. I think they disturb the balance a bit: there's some space taken up on the left side but non on the right. Personally, I'll just remove them using uBlock for now but it will be interesting to see if anyone uses those buttons/arrows. Maybe it makes sense to remove them completely?

I find that they're a tad less bothersome when the wrapper width is less than 100%. On that note...

Also makes use of the screen space which is practical and efficient. Many thanks @corysanin  :)

I was surprised by this. I've been using a local ElkArte instance for testing and the width of the wrapper elements was wider than the current default theme but not as wide as it is here on the prod site. Come to find out there's actually a setting in the admin panel to adjust the wrapper width. For whatever reason the other theme didn't respect this setting. The new one does. The 100% width set here is a bit wide for my taste. 90%-95% is probably the sweet spot, in my opinion.


Also, in the CSS, there's a :focus target on ".sceditor-container textarea, .sceditor-container textarea" which makes the message box (which I'm currently typing in) increase the font size to 1em. It's pretty confusing since the text jumps when you try focusing on it, making the position of the cursor weird. Since this wasn't a thing in the old theme, I'd suggest removing the :hover target and just making the font 1em. (by the way, related thread: https://forum.artixlinux.org/index.php/topic,7786.0.html)

Thank you for pointing that out, I believe I addressed this in the latest release.

IMHO

I don't like it! Neither the new theme nor the old one, all other theme on the elkarte platform are physically painful to look at!

Here is an example of how a forum not on the elkarte platform might look:

https://web.archive.org/web/20250515135514/https://archlinux.org.ru/forum/

None of the minimalist themes (https://themes.elkarte.net//categories/minimal.html) out there do it for you either? I know it's hard to get a good look at them with many demo links being busted.

1st (marked in purple). For the light variant.
I can barely read it in the light/white version. Darken it more please.

2nd (marked in red). For the light variant.
The colors for the normal users seems blend in the background. Either it needs more chroma(less gray-ish/lack in color) or more chroma with lower lightness(making it dark blue).

3rd (marked in orange) For the dark variant.
It's less readable in the dark variant. Make it a bit lighter.

I incorporated all your feedback into the latest iteration. In particular I used a more saturated color for the primary color palette (https://gitea.artixlinux.org/corysanin/artix-elkarte-theme/commit/b86f0c25cace8fe51337561004634c9ce03f0bff#diff-fea7bdfa61c2a308b650467f569a3d11b3dcee0f) in the light theme.

The changes will go live when nous has a chance to pull from my repo.
Title: Re: New forum theme
Post by: ####### on 10 August 2025, 12:25:51
I tried it but prefer the original Silence. This wouldn't be a problem as that theme is still available, but it seems the forum will only show your chosen theme when you are logged in. So if you just go to the site without being logged in, you get the default theme and not what you previously selected. Many websites will save that kind of info in a cookie, but it doesn't seem to be happening here. There is also apparently no way for people without an account to set a display preference, as it appears under account settings.
Title: Re: New forum theme
Post by: corysanin on 10 August 2025, 17:29:10
I tried it but prefer the original Silence. This wouldn't be a problem as that theme is still available, but it seems the forum will only show your chosen theme when you are logged in. So if you just go to the site without being logged in, you get the default theme and not what you previously selected. Many websites will save that kind of info in a cookie, but it doesn't seem to be happening here. There is also apparently no way for people without an account to set a display preference, as it appears under account settings.

Bookmark https://forum.artixlinux.org/index.php?theme=9
Title: Re: New forum theme
Post by: clappingsnowdrop on 11 August 2025, 13:42:28
Thanks @corysanin.
Few things that I missed:
(https://i.postimg.cc/wM7kVDp0/2025-08-11-11-05-47-1782x884-scrot.png)
(https://i.postimg.cc/RVJRJ1G0/2025-08-11-11-08-17-1767x896-scrot.png)
(https://i.postimg.cc/L8dVtq03/2025-08-11-11-20-38-1780x573-scrot.png)
(https://i.postimg.cc/MHNmrXZx/2025-08-11-11-21-40-1779x509-scrot.png)

On the light variant:
Marked in red: Needs to be darken, like the previous issue.
Marked in Teal/Aqua: There are black bars blocking out the percentages in the poll.

On the dark variant:
Marked in red: needs just a very little tiny bit of lightness increase.

On both variants:
Marked in purple: View results button sits on top of the thread page numbers.

References:
Poll: https://forum.artixlinux.org/index.php/topic,829.0/
Sub-thread page: https://forum.artixlinux.org/index.php/board,11.0.html
Title: Re: New forum theme
Post by: corysanin on 12 August 2025, 06:42:13
Thanks @corysanin.
Few things that I missed:

On the light variant:
Marked in red: Needs to be darken, like the previous issue.
Marked in Teal/Aqua: There are black bars blocking out the percentages in the poll.

On the dark variant:
Marked in red: needs just a very little tiny bit of lightness increase.

Fixes for these will be included in the next pull from git.

On both variants:
Marked in purple: View results button sits on top of the thread page numbers.

I'm not seeing this on my end. Anyone else?
Title: Re: New forum theme
Post by: Worm_Jim on 15 August 2025, 18:53:39
Quote
None of the minimalist themes (https://themes.elkarte.net//categories/minimal.html) out there do it for you either? I know it's hard to get a good look at them with many demo links being busted.

I'm gonna go build my own theme, with blackjack and *******!

(https://memepedia.ru/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/%D0%B1%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B4%D0%B5%D1%80-%D1%84%D1%83%D1%82%D1%83%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%BC%D0%B0.png)
Title: Re: New forum theme
Post by: nous on 25 August 2025, 20:52:13
Global theme changed. You can choose the old one in your profile. If you also want the old theme without logging in, bookmark https://forum.artixlinux.org/index.php?theme=9.
Title: Re: New forum theme
Post by: mrbrklyn on 25 August 2025, 21:00:53
yee gad!  Is someone bored and has too much time on their hands.
Title: Re: New forum theme
Post by: ####### on 26 August 2025, 02:14:29
The new default is not what I expected, as the auto option seems to be the default which gives the light not dark variant, at least for me, and it seems quite a drastic change indeed. Link certainly bookmarked!   :o
Title: Re: New forum theme
Post by: corysanin on 26 August 2025, 03:25:10
The new default is not what I expected, as the auto option seems to be the default which gives the light not dark variant, at least for me, and it seems quite a drastic change indeed. Link certainly bookmarked!   :o

well it's controlled by your browser, so...

Some privacy-focused browsers (such as Tor Browser) always indicate light theme is preferred to make fingerprinting harder. Perhaps this is your case?
Title: Re: New forum theme
Post by: ####### on 26 August 2025, 14:25:08
It's on auto on Waterfox. I don't want to change every other website though, and there's no way to apply it for just one site. "Silence" had no light version, so was always dark regardless of any other settings.  The only thing I found that might help is an extension called Dark Reader but it makes pages load slowly. The color scheme doesn't look even vaguely how it did before, so can't really be described as a modified variant of the original default! But if everyone else likes it that's fine, the dark theme just seemed to be a distinctive Artix feature to me, in contrast to most other distros.
Title: Re: New forum theme
Post by: jrballesteros05 on 26 August 2025, 14:52:06
I like it and I prefer this kind of light themes to be honest.
Title: Re: New forum theme
Post by: Worm_Jim on 26 August 2025, 15:38:59
I'm not sleeping either and am slowly moving forward:
(https://s3.iimg.su/s/26/th_gksOGwfxzALHzJn7wz8Ji2HngJODeg5KkVUJJaJY.png) (https://iimg.su/i/ksOGwf)
Title: Re: New forum theme
Post by: corysanin on 26 August 2025, 20:39:28
I like it and I prefer this kind of light themes to be honest.
This sentiment is one I've seen a few times on our subreddit. That's why I prioritized offering both. With CSS variables, it's not that much work.

And to those whose browsers don't know how to respect your desire for a dark theme, here's another bookmark option: https://forum.artixlinux.org/index.php?theme=10&variant=dark
Title: Re: New forum theme
Post by: jrballesteros05 on 27 August 2025, 10:07:36
I like it and I prefer this kind of light themes to be honest.
This sentiment is one I've seen a few times on our subreddit. That's why I prioritized offering both. With CSS variables, it's not that much work.

And to those whose browsers don't know how to respect your desire for a dark theme, here's another bookmark option: https://forum.artixlinux.org/index.php?theme=10&variant=dark

This is awesome, the dark variant is so pretty too. Thanks a lot for this :)
Title: Re: New forum theme
Post by: Everyone on 27 August 2025, 10:38:51
Definitely more readable and eye-friendly, so

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Title: Re: New forum theme
Post by: mrbrklyn on 27 August 2025, 11:51:54
I like it and I prefer this kind of light themes to be honest.
This sentiment is one I've seen a few times on our subreddit. That's why I prioritized offering both. With CSS variables, it's not that much work.

And to those whose browsers don't know how to respect your desire for a dark theme, here's another bookmark option: https://forum.artixlinux.org/index.php?theme=10&variant=dark


I'm using firefox and chromiun and neither seems to be willing to switch to a dark theme.
Title: Re: New forum theme
Post by: ####### on 27 August 2025, 15:40:41
In Waterfox and doubtless Firefox too, if you go to settings - general - language and appearance - website appearance and change it from the default "auto" to "dark" it will switch. But it will force every other website with an option to go dark as well. Auto will use your own OS theming to make a choice. The light theme isn't in line with any other Artix theming on other resources, past or present, which is strange given that Cory was saying in the interview how he was working on making the appearance of the sites more consistent! And unless you have non-standard dark settings or theming applied universally, it will default to the light option.
Title: Re: New forum theme
Post by: corysanin on 28 August 2025, 03:54:17
In Waterfox and doubtless Firefox too, if you go to settings - general - language and appearance - website appearance and change it from the default "auto" to "dark" it will switch. But it will force every other website with an option to go dark as well. Auto will use your own OS theming to make a choice.

The dark variant is the solution to this, and you don't even need to be logged in to use it.

The light theme isn't in line with any other Artix theming on other resources, past or present, which is strange given that Cory was saying in the interview how he was working on making the appearance of the sites more consistent!

I did say that. I was referring to having a consistent color palette, which is true. Silence had a lot of dark greens and dark blues, which didn't match our other sites' various shades of cyan.

This is the third site I've tackled, the other two being our gitea (https://gitea.artixlinux.org/explore/repos) and packages web (https://packages.artixlinux.org/packages/). You'll notice that packages web does in fact have a light theme. Gitea doesn't, but perhaps it will in the future.

I will always consider the dark themes to be the main ones but I also think that serving up a light theme to someone who prefers-color-scheme: light is the right move.
Title: Re: New forum theme
Post by: gripped on 28 August 2025, 19:54:20
I will always consider the dark themes to be the main ones but I also think that serving up a light theme to someone who prefers-color-scheme: light is the right move.
Or getting them sectioned ;)
Title: Re: New forum theme
Post by: Surf3r on 30 August 2025, 10:30:18

 As much as I like light themes I find previous dark theme as being the one for Artix forum.

It looks very good this light theme and definitely more readable than the dark one. It's good we have this option, tnx @corysanin ✌🏻✌🏻

Great job!

"Let there be light!"
Title: Re: New forum theme
Post by: clappingsnowdrop on 31 August 2025, 14:05:54
Found another thing that needs some fixing:

The code block section of light variant of this theme, the font colors lack contrast:
Especially the grey colour:
Code: [Select]
"../"
There maybe other colours in the code font variables that have not been displayed in the screenshot, that may need changes as well. (Haven't checked the source code.)

See at the end of line 6:
Code: [Select]
"-1"
I only noticed the negative/hypen/dash when I had to look closely.



(https://i.postimg.cc/Z5Wm0T3W/light.png)

(https://i.postimg.cc/MKKq20pb/dark.png)

Source:
https://forum.artixlinux.org/index.php/topic,8626.0.html (wireplumber.log code block)
Title: Re: New forum theme
Post by: corysanin on 31 August 2025, 18:53:46
Thank you for that, I'll take care of it!
Title: Re: New forum theme
Post by: metwo on 01 September 2025, 10:09:12
As a dark theme guy, I've switched all my KDE theming to light recently and wow, maybe my eyes have changed over the years, it's so much easier to read.
Title: Re: New forum theme
Post by: clappingsnowdrop on 02 September 2025, 13:22:04
Not a fix but a suggestion: is it possible to have a different color scheme for the dark and light variants of the font color feature?
Because some are hard to see. Depending on which variant you choose, one is difficult to read than the other:

The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog
The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog
The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog
The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog
The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog
The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog
The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog
The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog
The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog
The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog
The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog
The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog
The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog
The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog
The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog

(https://i.postimg.cc/G3MhVQTp/2025-09-02-10-56-32-878x443-scrot.png)
Title: Re: New forum theme
Post by: corysanin on 02 September 2025, 17:46:22
Not a fix but a suggestion: is it possible to have a different color scheme for the dark and light variants of the font color feature?
Because some are hard to see. Depending on which variant you choose, one is difficult to read than the other:

The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog
The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog
The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog
The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog
The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog
The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog
The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog
The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog
The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog
The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog
The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog
The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog
The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog
The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog
The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog

There's a remote chance I can do something but make no promises.
Title: Re: New forum theme
Post by: corysanin on 02 September 2025, 20:24:35
I wasn't sure what to do about "white" and "black". I'm not sure what the intent is of offering these options. I went with making "black" a high-contrast color for each theme and "white" a low contrast, subtle color. But truthfully nobody should use either in my opinion.

(https://img.sanin.dev/-7bsqzX3U7G)
Title: Re: New forum theme
Post by: clappingsnowdrop on 03 September 2025, 01:49:04
I'm referring to the dropdown menu font color selection.
Something like this:
(https://i.postimg.cc/TPYpt07Z/artix-preview.png)
Where less colors selected, but has the color block on the left and font preview on the right for both light and dark theme variants.

Or just an individual preview like the previous one but still includes the color block and font preview. The available palette dropdown would depend on which variant is used.
Like if one has chosen the dark theme this would pop-up:
(https://i.postimg.cc/nLRMgmNM/artix-preview-1.png)

And for light:
(https://i.postimg.cc/1t84QtZB/artix-preview-2.png)

Note: Ignore color palette (not use this for the change) as this is based a different background lightness (based on the selenized theme).
Title: Re: New forum theme
Post by: corysanin on 03 September 2025, 03:53:56
I agree, that would be nice, but it's a bit out of scope I think. Plus the color previews only apply to this one theme and I maintain that there's rarely ever a reason to select a different font color in the first place. I updated the colors in the dropdown at least:

(https://img.sanin.dev/-pWWgkyssuf)
Title: Re: New forum theme
Post by: clappingsnowdrop on 03 September 2025, 15:14:59
I agree, that would be nice, but it's a bit out of scope I think. Plus the color previews only apply to this one theme and I maintain that there's rarely ever a reason to select a different font color in the first place. I updated the colors in the dropdown at least:

(https://img.sanin.dev/-pWWgkyssuf)

Figured as much. That it will take some drastic changes if the font preview feature were to be implemented.
What you did is a good compromise. Thank you.