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Init systems => dinit => Topic started by: freecicero on 29 August 2025, 04:25:04

Title: As soon as I start Tailscale With Dinitctl my Browsers Stop Accessing Internet..
Post by: freecicero on 29 August 2025, 04:25:04
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Title: Re: As soon as I start Tailscale With Dinitctl my Browsers Stop Accessing Internet..
Post by: freecicero on 29 August 2025, 04:50:01
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.... Turn it back off again with sudo dinitctl stop tailscaled and the internet starts working again.

This is my first full day trying out the DINIT version of Artix and I really like it, but after searching the forum and googling I am seeing only answers that suggest using systemd.   I haven't a clue how to get a better answer as I don't see this issue in the forum.

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Use a compatible DNS manager. The recommended solution is to use systemd-resolved (which can be run on Artix even without full systemd adoption) to manage DNS settings. systemd-resolved provides a reliable interface that both Tailscale and your DHCP client can work with, preventing them from overwriting each other's configuration files.
Enable the service: sudo dinitctl enable systemd-resolved
Start the service: sudo dinitctl start systemd-resolved

I did not install networkmanager and I am using conman to manage the connection.

Any pointers to the Artix way of dealing with this will be appreciated.

Continuing to play with it, it works perfectly as a toggle:

"sudo dinitctl stop  tailscaled" and I have full internet access
sudo dinitctl start  tailscaled" and internet access immediately stops.

I am very sorry for the two posts -- I am not sure how that happened and can't seem to delete the first.
Title: Re: As soon as I start Tailscale With Dinitctl my Browsers Stop Accessing Internet..
Post by: Zendjinn on 29 August 2025, 12:50:47
I had a similar problem with tailscale, and in the end this is what i did (and still do). You have to prevent MagicDNS from taking over the "resolv.conf" configuration...

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tailscale up --accept-dns=false

will disable MagicDNS on the device, preventing Tailscale from modifying the DNS configuration file.
You will lose MagicDNS capability on your Tailnet but Tailscale ip addresses (which is what i use anyway) work perfectly fine.

Title: Re: As soon as I start Tailscale With Dinitctl my Browsers Stop Accessing Internet..
Post by: freecicero on 29 August 2025, 12:59:15
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You will lose MagicDNS capability on your Tailnet but Tailscale ip addresses (which is what i use anyway) work perfectly fine.

OK  thank you that is what I did not understand about what I read earlier. 

I can probably live with that too, but using magicdns over multiple machines is something I am commonly doing, so I hope a more complete solution will ultimately be discovered.
Title: Re: As soon as I start Tailscale With Dinitctl my Browsers Stop Accessing Internet..
Post by: Zendjinn on 29 August 2025, 14:57:15
Just curious, are you using a vpn? That was what caused my problems. Not the vpn itself, but the fact that i had set it to deny access if the vpn dropped it's connection, which was indeed happening every time the resolv.conf file was changed to the tailscale nameserver(s).

Now i just stop the vpn if i'm using it, before starting tailscale and all is well. When i have finished with tailscale, i stop it with "tailscale down" and then continue as normal, with or without the vpn.
Title: Re: As soon as I start Tailscale With Dinitctl my Browsers Stop Accessing Internet..
Post by: freecicero on 30 August 2025, 03:14:26
No, I'm not using a VPN and as far as I know I am just using tailscale itself over my standard connection.
Title: Re: As soon as I start Tailscale With Dinitctl my Browsers Stop Accessing Internet..
Post by: Zendjinn on 30 August 2025, 04:34:23
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No, I'm not using a VPN and as far as I know I am just using tailscale itself over my standard connection.

Ok, then either one of these will probably work, choose which one you want to use and see how you get on.

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Uncheck "Use Tailscale DNS settings" in the Tailscale preferences menu.

Or via the command line using....

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  tailscale set --accept-dns = false

Hope you get it working as you want. 👍🙏


Title: Re: As soon as I start Tailscale With Dinitctl my Browsers Stop Accessing Internet..
Post by: mrbrklyn on 30 August 2025, 08:33:55
I thought first and foremost it was a vpn which would indeed intercept much of your networking.

https://tailscale.com/
Title: Re: As soon as I start Tailscale With Dinitctl my Browsers Stop Accessing Internet..
Post by: freecicero on 30 August 2025, 15:00:47
Thanks again for the help!
Title: Re: As soon as I start Tailscale With Dinitctl my Browsers Stop Accessing Internet..
Post by: freecicero on 31 August 2025, 04:16:37
Just in case it helps someone else, I see that I can make use of magicdns addresses if I download the static binary from here:

https://pkgs.tailscale.com/stable/#static

then, after having previously logging in to the tailscale website, after that point I am able to start tailscale with this command:

 ./tailscaled --state=tailscaled.state

and during that session I can access other computers using their magicdns name without that interfering with my standard internet access.
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