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Audacity (misteriously?) auto-starts at boot and logo freezes over desktop

I run Artix on a HP 8440p, intel i-5, 8GB and it has worked fine for some years now.

One minor problem I have been living with for several months now and still haven't managed to solve, is that Audacity
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world/audacity 1:3.4.2-3.1 (pro-audio) [installed]
never starts beyond placing its logo over the desktop. This has been happening through numerous updates and even a few remove/install
.
When I call audacity from the terminal it shows the logo  and freezes without giving any feedback at all on the terminal.

The audacity logo also shows and remains over the desktop upon boot and has to be removed by killing.

I tried the appImage once but it did not start and I never tried it again.

I could not make any sense of the info below, as to how Audacity gets activated under boot, but perhaps I was wrong in expecting an answer from that:
[arthur@xiahp ~]
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$ rc-update show
          agetty.tty1 |      default                           
          agetty.tty2 |      default                           
          agetty.tty3 |      default                           
          agetty.tty4 |      default                           
          agetty.tty5 |      default                           
          8agetty.tty6 |      default                           
               binfmt | boot                                   
             bootmisc | boot                                   
              cgroups |                                 sysinit
             connmand |      default                           
                 dbus |      default                           
                devfs |                                 sysinit
                dmesg |                                 sysinit
              elogind | boot                                   
            esysusers | boot                                   
        etmpfiles-dev |                                 sysinit
      etmpfiles-setup | boot                                   
                 fsck | boot                                   
             hostname | boot                                   
              hwclock | boot                                   
              keymaps | boot                                   
            killprocs |                        shutdown        
    kmod-static-nodes |                                 sysinit
                local |      default nonetwork                 
           localmount | boot                                   
             loopback | boot                                   
              modules | boot                                   
             mount-ro |                        shutdown        
                 mtab | boot                                   
               net.lo | boot                                   
             netmount |      default                           
               procfs | boot                                   
                 root | boot                                   
         save-keymaps | boot                                   
    save-termencoding | boot                                   
            savecache |                        shutdown        
                 sddm | boot                                   
              seedrng | boot                                   
                 swap | boot                                   
               sysctl | boot                                   
                sysfs |                                 sysinit
         termencoding | boot                                   
                 udev |                                 sysinit
         udev-trigger |                                 sysinit

I noticed tenacity and sneedacity in pacman's listing, but  I get scared  by the few reviews I find  on them,  maybe some one can share experience?

Re: Audacity (misteriously?) auto-starts at boot and logo freezes over desktop

Reply #1 –
Hello, can you please check the folder at /home/<youruser>/.config/autostart?

Is there an "audacity.desktop" file? If so you may want to remove it.

I personally use tenacity and it serves me well.

Re: Audacity (misteriously?) auto-starts at boot and logo freezes over desktop

Reply #2 –
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posted by @Penaz:  please check the folder at /home/<youruser>/.config/autostart

These are the  files  there:
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 pipewire-audio.desktop
pipewire-jack.desktop
pipewire-pulse.desktop
pipewire.desktop
xfce4-power-manager.desktop
xfce4-screensaver.desktop
Audacity is not there but the 3 audio-related files left me wondering.

Thanks for helping and informing on tenacity.

Re: Audacity (misteriously?) auto-starts at boot and logo freezes over desktop

Reply #3 –
Perhaps install the small "ripgrep" package then do:
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$ cd /etc
# rg -i audacity
and see if any likely looking files get mentioned in the search results? Sneedacity works fine here btw.

Re: Audacity (misteriously?) auto-starts at boot and logo freezes over desktop

Reply #5 –
Ripgrep is good, it's one of the fastest and easiest ways to search lots of files. I used to use ag, The Silver Searcher, then the wild-git fork. But now Allen Wild says on the GitHub page: "Deprecation: In my own personal usage I've pretty much entirely switched to ripgrep over the last year or so. It's faster than ag (mainly thanks to the speed of Rust's DFA based regex engine), supports UTF-16 encoded files, and just generally has fewer weird corner-case bugs."

OpenRC has various methods to autostart things and the files would usually reside in a variety of locations in /etc so any mention of audacity here would be worth investigating, although there are other possibilities too of course.

Re: Audacity (misteriously?) auto-starts at boot and logo freezes over desktop

Reply #6 –
ripgrep made no mention of audacity.

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posted by @####### OpenRC has various methods to autostart things and the files would usually reside in a variety of locations in /etc so any mention of audacity here would be worth investigating, although there are other possibilities too of course. :

I will try looking into the above suggestion now

Re: Audacity (misteriously?) auto-starts at boot and logo freezes over desktop

Reply #7 –
On my Dell M4500, Nvidia graphics and using  Nouveau, which is a similar age to your Elitebook, Sneedacity, VLC and the browser when playing graphics heavy sites like YouTube are all things that can trigger occasional random graphics related crashes when used together. Perhaps it's a graphic driver related thing if you have the Nvidia graphics option, so in relation to it not working then trying some older LTS kernels and possibly other graphics related stuff like mesa could help.
This might help to find out why it auto starts:
https://serverfault.com/questions/232762/linux-how-to-know-where-a-process-was-started-and-how-it-was-started

Re: Audacity (misteriously?) auto-starts at boot and logo freezes over desktop

Reply #8 –
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posted by @#######:
This might help to find out why it auto starts:
https://serverfault.com/questions/232762/linux-how-to-know-where-a-process-wa

Sounds good!  I have several installs/hardware with problem right now, so it may be a while before I look into that.

This morning I tried to remove audacity, which was not working anyway, and not only under Artix, and was surprised by what I got and did not understand at all:
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$ pacman -r audacity
error: failed to initialize alpm library:
(root: audacity, dbpath: audacity/var/lib/pacman/)
could not find or read directory


Does anybody understand that ?

Re: Audacity (misteriously?) auto-starts at boot and logo freezes over desktop

Reply #9 –
Quote from: wanwalk – on
Does anybody understand that ?
Primo, there's no "-r" parameter for remove. There is "-R" parameter. Yes, there's difference. Secundo, remember that you cannot perform this operation unless you are root.

Re: Audacity (misteriously?) auto-starts at boot and logo freezes over desktop

Reply #10 –
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posted by @Ambie :
Primo, there's no "-r" parameter for remove. There is "-R" parameter. Yes, there's difference. Secundo, remember that you cannot perform this operation unless you are root.

Thanks Ambie, it seems I will never get rid of such blunders.

Re: Audacity (misteriously?) auto-starts at boot and logo freezes over desktop

Reply #11 –
After 3 updates of my system, with several strange problems in between them Audacity is once again working and is not  falsestarting anymore. 

Thanks for your support.

Re: Audacity (misteriously?) auto-starts at boot and logo freezes over desktop

Reply #12 –
That's good, and sneedacity still works here. In respect to your earlier observation about differences to audacity, sneedacity is based on an older version of audacity which still has the time shift tool rather than clip handles, so you are correct, they aren't identical.
 

Re: Audacity (misteriously?) auto-starts at boot and logo freezes over desktop

Reply #14 –
I installed tenacity before the last system update, (immediately after another system update) but just like audacity it would not start.
I then removed both and after the latest update I installed audacity again and then it started working again.

I now have to try sneedacity and tenacity, I am curious about both and would be glad to have a ready-to-use alternative to audacity, to begin with.

This tread is SOLVED!

Thanks for all help !