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Parabola Linux

Hey guys. I was wondering if somebody could give me a hand with a 32-bit OpenRC Arch Linux distro, I know its not Artix Linux but its very similar. It won't shutdown/reboot, I've used:
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sudo poweroff
sudo shutdown -h now
sudo openrc-shutdown --halt
sudo openrc-shutdown --reboot
sudo shutdown now
sudo openrc-shutdown --kexec
sudo reboot

Why might OpenRC not want to shutdown? Am I missing something??? I've installed it via pacstrap.

Re: Parabola Linux

Reply #1 –
Don't know but Artix uses loginctrl i.e "sudo loginctrl poweroff"

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Reply #2 –
The old [arch-openrc] and [arch-nosystemd] repos contain everything you need. Use the guide from systemd-free.org with 32bit packages from archlinux32.org.

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Reply #3 –
Quote from: robin0800 – on
Don't know but Artix uses loginctrl i.e "sudo loginctrl poweroff"
Quote from: nous – on
The old [arch-openrc] and [arch-nosystemd] repos contain everything you need. Use the guide from systemd-free.org with 32bit packages from archlinux32.org.

Thanks guys. Where might I find these old repos? I know about archlinux32.org, so loginctrl is what I have to investigate?
I really hope I can get this thing running. OpenRC Arch on my 32-bit netbook would be a dream! archlinux32.org should abandon SystemD & just go straight for OpenRC, it works better on older PC's too, it would seem systemD guzzles more memory.
Maybe in a couple of months once I know more I'll be able to start an artixlinux32.org :P maybe I'd be able to get the parabola devs to join me.

Edit: I can't seem to find loginctrl anywhere. the command is inexistent apparently. Any idea what package I need to install to have loginctrl??

What OpenRC scripts might be in charge of shutdown? I can't seem to find anything about "loginctrl" ....

Also, I cannot seem to find the i686 Arch-OpenRC ISO in the sourceforge repo.... I tried to see if it was on the x86_64 one(like 2 in 1) but it wasn't.

Re: Parabola Linux

Reply #4 –
Quote from: nous – on
The old [arch-openrc] and [arch-nosystemd] repos contain everything you need. Use the guide from systemd-free.org with 32bit packages from archlinux32.org.

Where is the ISO for i686???? The sourceforge repo doesn't seem to have it anywhere.... :(

It would be nice if you guys left links to what you're talking about because I can't find any relevant info on either of your suggestions!

Can't find i686 ISO in arch-openrc sourceforge repo & can't find anything about "loginctrl" either... Very frustrating!! Please somebody give me a link to these things!!

Quote from: robin0800 – on
Don't know but Artix uses loginctrl i.e "sudo loginctrl poweroff"

But it doesn't work. This command does literally nothing on Artix....

Edit: Ah, loginCTL does something... but it still won't shutdown parabola, just hangs the exact same way, stuck at Sending the final term signal/kill signal

Re: Parabola Linux

Reply #5 –
Read my message again and go to the site it says. Never said anything about 32bit ISO, only repos.

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Reply #6 –
Quote from: nous – on
Read my message again and go to the site it says. Never said anything about 32bit ISO, only repos.

Where do I find the ISO file then.... -_-
Why isn't there a i686 ISO???? Was it deleted???? a link to what you're talking about would be nice...

I don't know what guide you are specifically talking about, this?????
https://systemd-free.org/migrate.php

I can't pacstrap base-openrc ............. :/ don't know how I should do this... If I had the proper ISO this probably wouldn't be so difficult...

arch-openrc is a serious mess... dependencies have serious issues. Parabola is done so nicely(kind of like Artix) but it just doesn't want to shutdown...

I thought I had it solved by installing the stupid intel-ucode firmware, but I was wrong :(
The USB shuts down no problem, but after installing via pacstrap, it won't reboot or shutdown....

I'd like to figure out how to get Parabola to shutdown, as arch-openrc is just too much of a mess... What logs are relevant??? What should I post? I don't know where to begin with this problem.... if Artix wasn't shutting down, what would we do? Its very similar, same init & same base-system.

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Reply #8 –
Quote from: kenny_w – on
Thanks guys. Where might I find these old repos? I know about archlinux32.org, so loginctrl is what I have to investigate?
I really hope I can get this thing running. OpenRC Arch on my 32-bit netbook would be a dream! archlinux32.org should abandon SystemD & just go straight for OpenRC, it works better on older PC's too, it would seem systemD guzzles more memory.
Maybe in a couple of months once I know more I'll be able to start an artixlinux32.org :P maybe I'd be able to get the parabola devs to join me.

Edit: I can't seem to find loginctrl anywhere. the command is inexistent apparently. Any idea what package I need to install to have loginctrl??

What OpenRC scripts might be in charge of shutdown? I can't seem to find anything about "loginctrl" ....

Also, I cannot seem to find the i686 Arch-OpenRC ISO in the sourceforge repo.... I tried to see if it was on the x86_64 one(like 2 in 1) but it wasn't.
The 32 bit openrc lxde iso appears to be here

https://wiki.parabola.nu/Get_Parabola#Parabola_LXDE_ISO

Re: Parabola Linux

Reply #9 –
I've recently installed Arch 32bit on an old P4 and used successfully the [arch-openrc] and [arch-nosystemd] repos to convert it to OpenRC. As main repos I used the ones from archlinux32.org and pulled some key packages (like openrc) from our Artix github source repositories to compile locally. Note however that this box is serving only as dns/proxy/filtering server and not as desktop.

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Reply #10 –
The problem I was encountering had to do with the Libre 4.14+ kernel, Libre 4.9 would shut down my old netbook just fine.
Thank you all very much for your answers.

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Reply #11 –
I have a good friend who is now both stuck with a 32bit only machine and always liked 32bit systems.
He tried parabola  and now is cursing up a storm of how he kept coming up with systemd or it wouldn't work.
Would you recommend still to follow the path indicated here by @nous to convert a 32bit arch into openrc?
Any reason why it wouldn't work today?
 

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Reply #12 –
It's unsupported, period. That being said, it should work but one needs to know their way around makepkg and pacman. I did it with minimal effort, i.e. chose to compile myself some packages to newer versions. Some pacman -[SR]dd is necessary.