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Artix noob

Hi to all,
new to Artix, 4-5 years Manjaro user, I remember some people here being there too in the past

installed Plasma openrc (1.3 GB stable iso) to usb3 pendrive and like the distro and the init system, now thinking to replace Manjaro in my machine windows-free
for a newbie like me is recommend to go with openrc or runit?

I'm a average John user but trying to understand how to manage many things without sytemd
was able to install and enable tlp and ufw-gufw plus the sf I use in my daily routine, nothing with special requirement
I deed read the wiki and everything seem to work well but I'm not a English mother language and not fully expert in the language too...
so sometimes I may not understand or catch everything and I may ask you people...

thanks for attention

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@nick, I migrated from Manjaro too and I fully agree with Nous: openrc is the simple step. I'm using it practically when Artix started and almost all has been flat, with very few obstacles to manage.

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I am no "average Johns",but I use openrc too.I find it more stable and robust as another our init.  ;D

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thanks to everybody for suggestions and warm welcome

installed openrc today afternoon with all the sf I need

now I will finish few system and apps setting, very happy...

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Hello and welcome !

I am a true "French John user" and for a year now I have been doing very well with Artix XFCE OpenRC on several PCs.

I abandoned Manjaro because I was bothered by systemd.
Also, the EEE philosophy of systemd did not suit me.
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend_and_extinguish

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Bonjour et bienvenue !

Je suis un vrai "French John user" et depuis un an je me débrouille très bien avec Artix XFCE OpenRC sur plusieurs PC.

J'ai abandonné Manjaro car j'étais gêné par systemd.
De plus, la philosophie EEE de systemd ne me convenait pas.
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend_and_extinguish

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I tried to start automatically ufw firewall at boot under runit and it seems that UFW doesn't have a service to be started at boot so i must enable UFW after each start. Searched the web but didn't find anything about ufw and runit, even void linux instructions are deprecated. If anyone above "average joe" can shed some light on this one many will benefit from this instructions. Regards

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Quote from: Surf3r – on
I tried to start automatically ufw firewall at boot under runit and it seems that UFW doesn't have a service to be started at boot so i must enable UFW after each start. Searched the web but didn't find anything about ufw and runit, even void linux instructions are deprecated. If anyone above "average joe" can shed some light on this one many will benefit from this instructions. Regards

1. why you write your problem here? Why you not open new topic?
2. why you write here from Windows 10? (In our experience, such users are usually just trolls)
3. if you use artix, you will able surely install ufw-runit package, which is in our repo. see pacman -Ss ufw  8)

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Quote from: Surf3r – on
I tried to start automatically ufw firewall at boot under runit and it seems that UFW doesn't have a service to be started at boot so i must enable UFW after each start. Searched the web but didn't find anything about ufw and runit, even void linux instructions are deprecated. If anyone above "average joe" can shed some light on this one many will benefit from this instructions. Regards

Apart from being in wrong thread you missed one point, you did not mention you read Artix wiki.
There are some differences in Artix runit compared to other distros so go and check Artix wiki.
https://wiki.artixlinux.org/Main/Runit
On this wiki you will also find a section:
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Installation of services
runit service packages are named package_name-runit and, when installed, will be available in /etc/runit/sv.

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Made it, removed ufw, installed ufw-runit, had to run 
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# ln -s /etc/runit/sv/ufw /var/service
and now firewall starts automatically at boot.
 P.S. 1) I've searched for UFW in forum and it gave me this result that was relevant to my problem
         2) When using firefox with many "about:config" privacy tweeks browser user agent is spoofed blocking fingerprinting, tracking and much more like fishing
         3) I don't use windows from 9-10 years by now
         3) From artix wiki i couldn't figure it out how to create ufw service made some steps but didn't worked that way
 Thank you very much @alium for guide and understanding. Sorry for being in the wrong place of the forum  :o didn't really know how this forum things really go

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Quote from: Surf3r – on
Made it, removed ufw, installed ufw-runit, had to run 
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# ln -s /etc/runit/sv/ufw /var/service
and now firewall starts automatically at boot.
No need to uninstall, for services in Artix both packages are required. For example, I use s6 and I have both ufw and ufw-s6 installed. To check out which files are installed by a package, you can run, for example:
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$ pacman -Ql ufw | less
$ pacman -Ql ufw-runit | less

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         2) When using firefox with many "about:config" privacy tweeks browser user agent is spoofed blocking fingerprinting, tracking and much more like fishing
Try Librewolf, it is much better in terms of privacy. The author has worked hard to remove all the tracking from Mozilla and other parties. Also check out:

https://librewolf-community.gitlab.io/docs/addons/

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Using only ufw-runit firewall works correctly tried blocking different ports/ip's and it works like it should. The difference between ufw and ufw-runit is that the last one creates the necessary files to start the service at boot for different init available in artix after issuing the command above. About librewolf i don't like the container feature enabled by default but maybe i will switch after more reviews about it.

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Quote from: Surf3r – on
Using only ufw-runit firewall works correctly tried blocking different ports/ip's and it works like it should. The difference between ufw and ufw-runit is that the last one creates the necessary files to start the service at boot for different init available in artix after issuing the command above. About librewolf i don't like the container feature enabled by default but maybe i will switch after more reviews about it.
That is because ufw-runit depends on ufw (just like ufw-s6 and ufw-openrc). So you uninstalled a package, only for it to be installed again as a dependency. For example, this is the list of files of ufw-runit:

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$ pkgfile -l ufw-runit
galaxy/ufw-runit        /etc/
galaxy/ufw-runit        /etc/runit/
galaxy/ufw-runit        /etc/runit/sv/
galaxy/ufw-runit        /etc/runit/sv/ufw/
galaxy/ufw-runit        /etc/runit/sv/ufw/finish
galaxy/ufw-runit        /etc/runit/sv/ufw/run

and this is the list of files of ufw:
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$ pacman -Ql ufw
ufw /etc/
ufw /etc/default/
ufw /etc/default/ufw
ufw /etc/ufw/
ufw /etc/ufw/after.init
...
ufw /etc/ufw/user6.rules
ufw /usr/
ufw /usr/bin/
ufw /usr/bin/ufw
ufw /usr/lib/
ufw /usr/lib/python3.9/
ufw /usr/lib/python3.9/site-packages/
ufw /usr/lib/python3.9/site-packages/ufw-0.36-py3.9.egg-info
...

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Yea maybe i shouldn't have to remove ufw i thought it can give some conflicts . Slowly hope i will catch up with you guys. This is a  new universe after long time on "noob" distros like linux lite/mint  happy that i found this distro without systemd that sometimes gave me many headaches with it's journald or whatever is doing with it's 3 gigs of code