Xfce4 do not recognize the usb at PCMan FM File Manager

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Re: Xfce4 do not recognize the usb at PCMan FM File Manager

Reply #30 – 25 January 2018, 18:33:27

[keos@kaos ~]$ rc-update -v show
       NetworkManager |      default                           
                acpid |      default                           
               agetty |                                        
          agetty.tty1 |      default                           
          agetty.tty2 |      default                           
          agetty.tty3 |      default                           
          agetty.tty4 |      default                           
          agetty.tty5 |      default                           
          agetty.tty6 |      default                           
            alsasound |                                        
         avahi-daemon |                                        
       avahi-dnsconfd |                                        
               binfmt | boot                                   
             bootmisc | boot                                   
          consolefont |                                        
               cronie |      default                           
                 dbus |      default                           
                devfs |                                 sysinit
        device-mapper |                                        
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              dmcrypt |                                        
                dmesg |                                 sysinit
             dmeventd |                                        
              elogind | boot                                   
                 fsck | boot                                   
              haveged |                                        
             hostname | boot                                   
              hwclock | boot                                   
              keymaps | boot                                   
            killprocs |                        shutdown        
    kmod-static-nodes |                                 sysinit
                local |      default nonetwork                 
           localmount | boot                                   
             loopback | boot                                   
                  lvm |                                        
       lvm-monitoring |                                        
              lvmetad |                                        
                mdadm |                                        
               mdraid |                                        
              modules | boot                                   
         modules-load |                                        
             mount-ro |                        shutdown        
                 mtab | boot                                   
           net-online |                                        
               net.lo | boot                                   
             netmount |      default                           
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            nfsclient |                                        
           ntp-client |                                        
                 ntpd |                                        
              numlock |                                        
     openrc-settingsd |                                        
         opensysusers | boot                                   
     opentmpfiles-dev |                                 sysinit
   opentmpfiles-setup | boot                                   
              osclock |                                        
               procfs | boot                                   
                 root | boot                                   
             rpc.gssd |                                        
           rpc.idmapd |                                        
           rpc.pipefs |                                        
            rpc.statd |                                        
          rpc.svcgssd |                                        
              rpcbind |                                        
               rsyncd |                                        
             runsvdir |                                        
            s6-svscan |                                        
            savecache |                        shutdown        
                 sntp |                                        
                 sshd |                                        
                 swap | boot                                   
              swclock |                                        
               sysctl | boot                                   
                sysfs |                                 sysinit
            syslog-ng |      default                           
         termencoding | boot                                   
                 udev |                                 sysinit
          udev-settle |                                        
         udev-trigger |                                 sysinit
              urandom | boot                                   
       wpa_supplicant |                                        
                  xdm |      default                           
            xdm-setup |                                        
[keos@kaos ~]$

i'm installing Manjaro with systemd (yes, i think that i have to go back to systemd, there is no much choices ...) and PCMan FM here not even recognanize manjaro.

Re: Xfce4 do not recognize the usb at PCMan FM File Manager

Reply #31 – 25 January 2018, 21:20:56

I have a question does thunar recognize the usb?

Re: Xfce4 do not recognize the usb at PCMan FM File Manager

Reply #32 – 26 January 2018, 12:10:07

I don't want to break the continuity of this thread or read it in great detail (4 pages of it).
I do like pcmanfm and use it in most occasions. Yes it was a nifty convenience to have systemd mounting all that it can possibly be mounted at the click of a button, but I learned to go the opposite way. I don't want things mounted automatically, I want what I want mounted and just that, and dismounting them and have them stay dismounted when I want.
So I learned to play with fstab accordingly and issue mount umount commands.

I still have a problem with pcmanfm, when I chroot to another installation and mounting things with artools-chroot, sometimes those other installations have almost a copy of the fstab, and now I have pcmanfm doubling up the list of things mounted two-three times each.

Let's say I am working on Artix1 and have /mnt/point1 /mnt/point2 /mnt/point3 /mnt/Artix2
When I chroot to /mnt/Artix2 I get /mnt/point1 /mnt/point2 /mnt/point3 /mnt/Artix1 and /mnt/Artix2/mnt/point1 /mnt/Artix2/mnt/point2 /mnt/Artix2/mnt/point3 /mnt/Artix2/mnt/Artix1

Or some mess like this, but that is pcmanfm's stupidity, not Artix's fault or sysvinit's or OpenRCs

Re: Xfce4 do not recognize the usb at PCMan FM File Manager

Reply #33 – 26 January 2018, 14:47:29

Not criticising anybody here but its more a matter of learning new ways,

I use pcmanfm on both Artix and Obarun with JWM it performs any task I ask of it including auto-mounting 5 HDs, USB drives and sticks, android,
I regularly chroot with pcmanfm as well. In fact I find pcmanfm a more complete file manager than thuner and better than nautilus in many functions.

What I will not do is repeat myself over and over again.

You guys need to take responsibility for your own systems read and learn new ways its all very simple and all written down

You need things like gvfs, you also need a policy kit like gnome-polkit, usisks-2, I also find a display manager goes a long way to get over these hurdles,

These 2 entries need to be in your autostart menu remember in xfce it in sessions most WMs its its in the config file, in /home/user /usr/lib/polkit-gnome/polkit-gnome-authentication-agent-1 dbus-launch pcmanfm --desktop -d if you use a gtk environment

Also in pcmanfm preferences the auto-mount entries need to be ticked pretty obvious really.

Forget the old ways like fstab entries and mounting with the cli, that died 10 years ago Linux has moved on from the dark ages.

I just get fed up with users winging on about this and that and can't be bothered to help themselves,
if a old fart with reading difficulties and memory loss can research and fix problems, then all you young intelligent users that think you know it all should have no problems.

Re: Xfce4 do not recognize the usb at PCMan FM File Manager

Reply #34 – 26 January 2018, 15:02:40

I agree in principle, I am learning "again" new ways, or going back to old ways, and I am learning to like a bit better to have to do a little extra work so I can have control instead of relying in sysd/gnome automatization that I "can not" control.
So even gvfs is a luxury I like to live without, that's what I was saying. I agree 1000% on the file managers with one exception. Don't rely on clickedyclick rights on folders and files and forget what chmod 0755 or 0633 means and chown and so on.

Going back to systemd is like saying I am returning to prison because the food is good and easier on the plate than have to dig it out in the forest. Humanity can only evolve by avoiding the bait. The food will not always be good and easy in prison, especially when you have long forgotten how much food there is in the forest.

Freedom is worth the pain and agony that it takes to attain it.

Re: Xfce4 do not recognize the usb at PCMan FM File Manager

Reply #35 – 26 January 2018, 15:13:08

Just to prove it works fine these 2 screen shots is what happens when I insert a usb stick into JWM using pcmanfm as you can see all drives mount at start up

Re: Xfce4 do not recognize the usb at PCMan FM File Manager

Reply #36 – 26 January 2018, 15:41:34

I have nothing against old school yes it gives full control over everything you do that is not the problem here.

The title says Re: Xfce4 do not recognize the usb at PCMan FM File Manager which is totally incorrect if the user was to do things correctly and read and learn.

To be honest as artoo keeps stating Artix has never sold its self as a hand holding distribution its for intermediate advanced users to craft to their needs and Artix does a great job for the user base its intended for in fact its up with the best Arch/Gentoo.

If a user insists on hand holding Manjaro comes with free dypers every download

and is a better choice or MX they are new user originated distros for the I don't want to learn user

I'm not discriminating the new user just giving the facts, we all started as new users but we were willing to learn one step at a time that means research and reading the wikis not stupid Google that goes round in circles and mainly out of date.