Re: Udev alternatives in Artix Reply #30 – 10 December 2018, 10:02:02 Well Obarun uses jwm, which doesn't require much but it came with consolekit which was required along with cgmanager for something else. So I didn't study it much. For years I had been using some lxde stuff on openbox, one of them was lxsession (which in arch contains lxpolkit), which requires either one of the two evils through polkit. On artix polkit requires elogind, but on obarun it doesn't require consolekit.. .... hence the confusion. This is not judgemental in any way, it is choice and approaches in doing things, which I have learned to respect, in the struggle against "all evil". Even MX which comes with systemd/libs.. installed but is not using it for what it was created for has become a top3 choice of interest in Distrowatch. Entry level anti-systemd Looking at this experimental project where one started with gentoo and tried to survive without dbus and how hard that was in gentoo (even), I think we don't have enough distributions out there that can deviate radically from the norm. I have faith in Adelie as breaking new ground, and void-musl is a ground breaker as well. But under a wider perspective one can appreciate artix more in being so rich and providing so much choice while walking a thin line between being too radical and disfunctional and as being as functional as any systemd distribution. It is like walking on a wire. The political parallel to this would have been Allente in Chile, who eventually fell off the wire 9/11 1973.