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Evolution is not starting with all gtk versions

Since a few weeks, i cannot install artix xfce or cinnamon and start evolution.
Clicking on the appsymbol - nothing happens.
Starting from terminal - dbind errors are shown, something with "no permission".
starting from terminal with sudo - nuspell and four more are missing. after installing the missing files, evolution starts with sudo only one time. After reboot same problem.

With kde no problems, but i dont like the plasma desktop:-)

is it a sign from above to stay with peppermint? i dont know, but artix was running before on this laptop with the version from september 23 very well.
certainly i am overlooking something, but what?
I install artix from 08/23 or the weekly builds, no difference. Evolution is not starting.
sometimes a message with an I/O error is coming, but only very short...

laptop is the same. on a second laptop the same problems, both from lenovo.
artix is working, everything i need, but not evolution.
but when i try plasma, evolution works. so the problem is not evolution, or?

what can i try?

Re: Evolution is not starting with all gtk versions

Reply #2 –
this is the terminal output, when i start evolution.

(evolution:3043): dbind-WARNING **: 19:22:28.572: Couldn't connect to accessibility bus: Failed to connect to socket /run/user/979/at-spi/bus_0: Keine Berechtigung

(evolution-alarm-notify:3053): dbind-WARNING **: 19:22:28.826: Couldn't connect to accessibility bus: Failed to connect to socket /run/user/979/at-spi/bus_0: Keine Berechtigung
bwrap: Can't find source path /run/user/979/at-spi: Permission denied

** (evolution:3043): ERROR **: 19:22:29.130: Failed to fully launch dbus-proxy: Der Kindprozess wurde mit Status 1 beendet
Trace/Breakpoint ausgelöst


This when i start with sudo:
(evolution:3711): Gtk-WARNING **: 19:25:50.769: Creating a portal monitor failed: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.UnknownMethod: Keine derartige Schnittstelle »org.freedesktop.portal.Inhibit« des Objekts im Pfad /org/freedesktop/portal/desktop

is it helpful?

Re: Evolution is not starting with all gtk versions

Reply #4 –
no, same error messages...

i have tried this from the troubleshooting tipps:

pacman -S dnsmasq-openrc
 rc-update add dnsmasq default
 rc-service dnsmasq start

then evolution ist starting and working, but after reboot i have to do it again.

so a problem with openRC?

Re: Evolution is not starting with all gtk versions

Reply #5 –
same with dinit ...

Re: Evolution is not starting with all gtk versions

Reply #6 –
I don't use this application regularly but it started up normally for me when I tried it just now.

Quote from: schimmi – on
this is the terminal output, when i start evolution.

(evolution:3043): dbind-WARNING **: 19:22:28.572: Couldn't connect to accessibility bus: Failed to connect to socket /run/user/979/at-spi/bus_0: Keine Berechtigung

I suspect this is your problem. I have no messages like this in my terminal. For whatever reason, this socket doesn't appear to exist on your machine.

Re: Evolution is not starting with all gtk versions

Reply #7 –
thinkpad here, stable .iso with cinnamon, evolution as the mail client.  Been loaded for a couple of months and all good for Evolution here (did a full update then reboot just to make sure).  One last thing, no gtk warning if started from the terminal. Something funky going on there.

Re: Evolution is not starting with all gtk versions

Reply #8 –
i give up, i tried all gtk versions. no way, evolution don´t start. second laptop too.  one t470, one yoga.
i stay with peppermint devuan, a little bit old, but working.

i have already invest too much time. the laptop has to work.
thank you very much for your efforts!!

Re: Evolution is not starting with all gtk versions

Reply #9 –
I don't understand what you mean by "tried all gtk versions". It's a gtk3 application. There's no other versions to try.

Re: Evolution is not starting with all gtk versions

Reply #10 –
i have no idea, what the problem was.
i tried garuda with systemd, evolution works.
so i thought, evolution is not the problem, and my laptop is also not the problem.
then i tried artix with plasma, evolution works.
so i thought, the problem is perhaps the desktop environment.
and then i tried all of them.
this is what i mean with "all gtk versions" (ok, not really correct)
xfce - evolution is not working
mate - not working
cinnamon not working. everythime exactly the same errors.
interestingly, lxde and lxqt are only starting after installing and updating with -Syu with the terminal.

so i thought, it must be the laptop and try an unused nvme in my lenovo x1 thinkpad. but also, artix xfce  and evolution are not working togehther.
when i take artix 2023-08, then installing is perfect, no problems. great for a rolling distro, as i understand. no problems.
i do a -Syu after installing, reboot, install evolution and firefox, then reboot and testing evolution. if i click on the button "email" i choose  evolution and get an I/E error. If i start evolution with the terminal, i get the errors written above.

installing with the weekly build is not so simple, everytime i have problems with the keys.
so i do first pacman-key --init, then pacman-key --populate, and then a -Syu. after reboot installing evolution and testing. same problems.

ich bin mit meinem Latein am Ende, in german, i dont know, what to do.
i have the feeling, that i`m overlooking something simple. artix was working before on this laptop, but i have no idea, where my mistake is.
i want a modern distro without systemd. so i am here. but i come to my limit...

so thanks for helping!

Re: Evolution is not starting with all gtk versions

Reply #11 –
Quote from: schimmi – on
ich bin mit meinem Latein am Ende, ...

ich würde mit export NO_AT_BRIDGE=1 versuchen.
"Wer alles kann, macht nichts richtig"

Artix USE="runit openrc slim openbox lxde gtk2 qt4 qt5 qt6 conky
-gtk3 -gtk4 -adwaita{cursors,themes,icons} -gnome3 -kde -plasma -wayland "

Re: Evolution is not starting with all gtk versions

Reply #12 –
ok, this helps a bit, a lot of ther errors are now gone.
nevertheless evolution is not starting.

per accident i find out, that all gnome-apps dont work. seahorse, cheese, everytime the same error:

failed to connect to socket /run/user/976 ... no permission.

so i checked this folder with thunar - i can only open it as root. is this right?
perhaps it is something with permissions?
on devuan no folder 976 exists, only 1000.
on artix there is a 976 and a 1000 under /run/user/.
the 1000 permission  is me, the 976 permission lightdm.  is this right?

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Reply #13 –
here is the new error from evolution after writing "export..." to bash.profile

bwrap: can`t find source path/run/user/976/at-spi: permission denied

Re: Evolution is not starting with all gtk versions

Reply #14 –
It probably needs your actual user which is normally 1000. I have no idea why the application appears to be looking for the lightdm user's ID but I would not expect that to work. As a workaround, you could try not using a display manager.