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Red Hat is adding AI to Fedora and GNOME

I'm not a fan, and I make it a point to take most of everything I hear with a whole salt shaker!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8BgXaBAr8c
S6/Plasma

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Red Hat is a virus!

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Is it not known that Lunduke is a Q nutjob?

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It is clear that Red Hat wants to be the next Microsoft. Fedora was a distro that I liked a lot in the past. But now, Fedora is a messed up distro that spies on its users and has a lot of controversial stuff. Fedora is also a very political distro, and Red Hat doesn't permit using it in several countries due to political matters.
See: https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/the-whole-world-can-use-fedora-except-these-5-countries/78200

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Is it not known that Lunduke is a Q nutjob?

Most definitely. I've known that for a while and it is entertaining how he blabbers on what goes on above and outside his head.
S6/Plasma

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It is clear that Red Hat wants to be the next Microsoft. Fedora was a distro that I liked a lot in the past. But now, Fedora is a messed up distro that spies on its users and has a lot of controversial stuff. Fedora is also a very political distro, and Red Hat doesn't permit using it in several countries due to political matters.
See: https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/the-whole-world-can-use-fedora-except-these-5-countries/78200

this is malinformation.

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Quote from: Phosphate5 – on
It is clear that Red Hat wants to be the next Microsoft. Fedora was a distro that I liked a lot in the past. But now, Fedora is a messed up distro that spies on its users and has a lot of controversial stuff. Fedora is also a very political distro, and Red Hat doesn't permit using it in several countries due to political matters.
See: https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/the-whole-world-can-use-fedora-except-these-5-countries/78200

this is malinformation.

Which part of it is exactly malinformation?

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Red Hat is adding AI to Fedora and GNOME

And one more unpleasant detail.  RHEL was increasing the architecture version baseline to v3, which results in the loss of support for numerous older CPUs(and some newer ones).

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Fake AI is being used for phishing and scamming, there are warnings of fake websites and social media groups that pretend to offer AI services, sometimes cloning real AI websites, but they are merely a ruse to get people to reveal their secrets. Whether real AI could be similarly described is another question...

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I've used LLaMa, Groq and Deepseek among others... and what I can say is AI still has a long road to go to be considered intelligent. When these "AIs" have no correct reply, they tend to hallucinate. They still invent/imagine instead of replying, I'm sorry but at this moment I cannot find any information for your query.
S6/Plasma

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this is malinformation.

Which part of it is exactly malinformation?
Fedora is not political. it is complying with us law, it has no choice, and anyone in those countries can run Fedora.
Fedora does not "Spy" on its users any more than the Artix servers track what IP's download updates.

But I would not want to be argumentative.

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Quote from: Phosphate5 – on
Which part of it is exactly malinformation?
Fedora is not political. it is complying with us law, it has no choice, and anyone in those countries can run Fedora.
Fedora does not "Spy" on its users any more than the Artix servers track what IP's download updates.

But I would not want to be argumentative.
Fedora collects telemetry and I don't like this. The Fedora's telemetry used to be opt-out but it seems, due to the negative reactions from the free software community, they changed the telemetry collection model to opt-in. I wasn't aware of this change and maybe I went a little too far saying that it spies on its users.
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Metrics

Nevertheless, I still believe that Fedora has major ethical flaws as the ban against several nations is against the philosophy of free software. And, NO! People in countries that are sanctioned by the US can't use Fedora without a VPN as Fedora's website blocks IPs that come from those countries. This is enough for me to avoid Fedora.
https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/access-forbidden-based-on-location-in-syria/85106
https://www.reddit.com/r/Fedora/comments/1eku1ln/why_is_fedora_restricted_on_cuba/
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/legal/export/

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GitHub blocks those countries too, all USA companies are subject to USA laws. Some apply them more enthusiastically than others, e.g. Cisco / Clamav. Redhat has links to the US military, so they are unlikely to rebel much.

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All this talk about having to abide by US laws seems a bit aloof looking at what Trump & Musk are doing.

"AI" lacks a generally approved definition anyhow; much hype, little understanding. Maybe this whole thing shows how much Red Hat is a capitalist corporation and not a Linux distribution. They think if they don't join the hype they'll perish (i.e. lose investors).

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Quote from: n00b – on
Fedora is not political. it is complying with us law, it has no choice, and anyone in those countries can run Fedora.
Fedora does not "Spy" on its users any more than the Artix servers track what IP's download updates.

But I would not want to be argumentative.
Fedora collects telemetry and I don't like this. The Fedora's telemetry used to be opt-out but it seems, due to the negative reactions from the free software community, they changed the telemetry collection model to opt-in. I wasn't aware of this change and maybe I went a little too far saying that it spies on its users.
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Metrics
So, when examined,  your accusations were found to be false in their entirety, correct? Thank you for that.
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Nevertheless, I still believe that Fedora has major ethical flaws as the ban against several nations is against the philosophy of free software. And, NO! People in countries that are sanctioned by the US can't use Fedora without a VPN as Fedora's website blocks IPs that come from those countries.
So you agree "several countries" can taking simple steps to use Fedora, right?

You assert an ethical concern, but do not detail it all all. Care to educate us on these ethical concerns?
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All this talk about having to abide by US laws seems a bit aloof looking at what Trump & Musk are doing.
I made a mistake. While Many distros are under US law specifically, these are international laws we are talking about. Enacted for good reason, right?
What is it called when discussing a topic and you point at something else? and say "What about...?"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism
We can agree LLM's, or genetic algorithms, are all bullshit.