Firefox TOS 28 February 2025, 14:51:37 Why are they actively trying to make the small userbase they still have leave as well? There are features in the browser I rely on not there in any alternative and all this stupid decision making is getting tiresome...Do any of the firefox forks diverge enough to make switching over worth it? Afaik most of them are just the same as using a custom user.js. 1 Likes
Re: Firefox TOS Reply #2 – 28 February 2025, 17:48:52 the key words here are "for the purpose of" and you aren't granting them any other rights. I use firefox and noscrip. I run it through an ssh proxy on panix.com. It has given me the most control I can get when browsing. The internet itself is now broken and increasingly useless. ungoogledchrome - I am not even sure what it does half the time.IMO, if you are unhappy with Mozillas agreements, and that is your privelenge, use something else. Wasting time ranting about firefox TOS.... there is so many more important things happening in the world and specifically with the internet and WWW. It has become a cesspool now. I suppose we can thank google and the search engines for that, and for the shift away from general purpose computing devices to spyware celluar tablets and can't run plain video files and translate your phone calls for the NSA.That being said, the irony is that I just posted this in Chomium.. so there is that. Last Edit: 02 March 2025, 16:25:48 by Hitman 3 Likes
Re: Firefox TOS Reply #3 – 28 February 2025, 23:06:22 FUDYou have to give them the rights to use your stuff to use their stuff, right?What are you giving them that you don't want them to have? Last Edit: 02 March 2025, 16:26:00 by Hitman 3 Likes
Re: Firefox TOS Reply #4 – 01 March 2025, 08:27:09 There is librewolf that it is in Artix repo they patch it it is not only user.js.There is also zen browser, another firefox forks.Code: [Select]omniverse/zen-browser 1.8.2b-1 Experience tranquillity while browsing the web without people tracking youhttps://www.tweaktown.com/news/103596/mozilla-now-has-full-license-to-all-of-your-data-through-firefox/index.htmlQuoteTL;DR: Mozilla has introduced a new Terms of Use agreement for Firefox users, granting itself a comprehensive license to utilize all information users upload or enter.TL;DR.
Re: Firefox TOS Reply #5 – 01 March 2025, 12:18:16 Quote from: Ogis – on 28 February 2025, 17:37:22Just use ungoogled-chromium > No Manifest V2 support and no fingerprint resisting option.No thank you! I will either switch to LibreWolf or build Firefox from the source myself!
Re: Firefox TOS Reply #6 – 02 March 2025, 16:25:15 Full list of changes:https://github.com/mozilla/bedrock/commit/d459addab846d8144b61939b7f4310eb80c5470eI personally would take a posivite stance at this, it's like in the pmos thread i would like to say this: the fight for independence can be vicious at times.It's still much better than what happened also at the beginning of this year where a browser was ordered to decided to shut down: Kiwi Browser for Android 1 Likes
Re: Firefox TOS Reply #7 – 03 March 2025, 03:27:52 All of those changes are indirect response to having google's money cut from them. Mozilla is trying to rebrand themselfs as AI company and they will probably use this data to train AI.
Re: Firefox TOS Reply #8 – 03 March 2025, 14:08:17 Quote from: Shoun2137 – on 03 March 2025, 03:27:52All of those changes are indirect response to having google's money cut from them. Mozilla is trying to rebrand themselfs as AI company and they will probably use this data to train AI.That is not included in the TOS. Show me exactly a source that supports any of that. Not useless speculation. A source that says they are storing the information and using it to train an AI project... with PROOF. Mind you have nearly all online answering and voice services already translate your voice into text and stores it. I see ZERO that shows Mozilla doing anything remotely like that.
Re: Firefox TOS Reply #9 – 03 March 2025, 21:09:32 Does somebody know is zen browser is actually for privacy?QuoteBeautifully designed, privacy-focused, and packed with features.We care about your experience, not your data. They have a discord channel after all.
Re: Firefox TOS Reply #10 – 03 March 2025, 22:11:38 Quote from: mrbrklyn – on 03 March 2025, 14:08:17[...]That is not included in the TOS. Show me exactly a source that supports any of that. Not useless speculation. A source that says they are storing the information and using it to train an AI project... with PROOF. Mind you have nearly all online answering and voice services already translate your voice into text and stores it. I see ZERO that shows Mozilla doing anything remotely like that.It seems like you need a better reading comprehension skill my friend, because I never said that as a matter of fact, I put it there as pure speculation, hence words "indirect" and "probably". You can deduce this outcome from all the recent moves Mozilla made so far.https://www.mozilla.ai/https://orbitbymozilla.com/https://old.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/1do4l3r/mozilla_roll_out_first_ai_features_in_firefox/Of course Mozilla will be secretive about it's operations due to the fact that the core userbase consists of powerusers. If you can't notice those patterns in their behaviour, then I'm sorry, but you're just naive.
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