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Re: USB HDD not loading on either computer with Artix Linux...

Reply #30 –
I didn't know this can be done, I always thought that every type of disk needed some kind of a start area that describes how the rest of the disk is configured, making this next big part at least a partition smaller that the whole.  But I guess I don't know about vfat.

Re: USB HDD not loading on either computer with Artix Linux...

Reply #31 –
I personally use ntfs reads and writes fine in linux with ntfs-3g and is native to windows

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Reply #32 –
I have exfat-utils

Quote from: nous – on
Your disk is one single partition, /dev/sdb, formatted as vfat. There's no regular sdb1, nothing special really, except for the fdisk output that suggests factory-created partition table. Is udisks2 installed in Artix? Disk and shares automounting is a job for helpers like udisks2 and gvfs, see the relevant Arch wiki article.
I suggest you get rid of that ugly partition table by backing up your disk somewhere and using gparted or cfdisk to create a single partition with a more modern filesystem like ext4 or exfat/ntfs if you use that disk with spyware like windows.


Yes I have udisks2 installed, But my disk isn't one single partition /dev/sdb...
Previously, on Manjaro Linux, I was able to do sudo blkid /dev/sdb1 in order to get the UUID for the first part of the partition...
Device     Boot      Start        End    Sectors   Size Id Type
/dev/sdb1       1919230059 6204919772 4285689714     2T  a OS/2 Boot Manager
/dev/sdb2        544829025 1089655755  544826731 259.8G 65 Novell Netware 386
/dev/sdb3        168653938  168653938          0     0B 65 Novell Netware 386
/dev/sdb4       2885681152 2885734080      52929  25.9M  0 Empty

Re: USB HDD not loading on either computer with Artix Linux...

Reply #33 –
Quote from: robin0800 – on
I personally use ntfs reads and writes fine in linux with ntfs-3g and is native to windows

I'd love to be able to change it to NTFS, but I've got over 1100GB of files on it & no other harddrive to back it all up on D:

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Reply #34 –
Quote from: kenny_w – on
I'd love to be able to change it to NTFS, but I've got over 1100GB of files on it & no other harddrive to back it all up on D:
Can you not do it in stages I  would never recommend not partitioning a hardrive. 

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Reply #35 –
Quote from: mandog – on
Can you not do it in stages I  would never recommend not partitioning a hardrive. 
Do it in stages??? How would I do that? Its 1100 GB full out of 2TB... There's no room for me to back it up anywhere in order to change the partitions around. I've had this harddrive for years.
Other distros don't have a problem with this harddrive, we have to be missing something...

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Reply #36 –
Quote from: kenny_w – on
I have exfat-utils


Yes I have udisks2 installed, But my disk isn't one single partition /dev/sdb...
Previously, on Manjaro Linux, I was able to do sudo blkid /dev/sdb1 in order to get the UUID for the first part of the partition...
Device    Boot      Start        End    Sectors  Size Id Type
/dev/sdb1      1919230059 6204919772 4285689714    2T  a OS/2 Boot Manager
/dev/sdb2        544829025 1089655755  544826731 259.8G 65 Novell Netware 386
/dev/sdb3        168653938  168653938          0    0B 65 Novell Netware 386
/dev/sdb4      2885681152 2885734080      52929  25.9M  0 Empty

Okay, blkid command is awesome. I had to use gnome-disk-utility to see uuid and the filesystem used.

Assuming the filesystem is OS/2 which falls under MS-DOS install these packages:

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pacman -Sy mtools dosfstools ntfs-3g

I threw in ntfs-3g just in case you ever need ntfs.

Or we could install support for (almost) every filesystem under the sun: (everything under the optional dependancies of gparted and then some)

pacman -Sy dosfstools jfsutils f2fs-tools btrfs-progs exfat-utils ntfs-3g reiserfsprogs udftools xfsprogs nilfs-utils mtools nfs-utils mtpfs

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[localhost ᒤᕞᕹᓸ]# pacman -Sii gparted
Repository      : extra
Name            : gparted
Version         : 0.30.0-3
Description     : A Partition Magic clone, frontend to GNU Parted
Architecture    : x86_64
URL             : http://gparted.sourceforge.net
Licenses        : GPL
Groups          : None
Provides        : None
Depends On      : parted  gtkmm
Optional Deps   : dosfstools: for FAT16 and FAT32 partitions
                  jfsutils: for jfs partitions
                  f2fs-tools: for Flash-Friendly File System
                  btrfs-progs: for btrfs partitions
                  exfat-utils: for exFAT partitions
                  ntfs-3g: for ntfs partitions
                  reiserfsprogs: for reiser partitions
                  udftools: for UDF file system support
                  xfsprogs: for xfs partitions
                  nilfs-utils: for nilfs2 support
                  polkit: to run gparted from application menu
                  gpart: for recovering corrupt partition tables
                  mtools: utilities to access MS-DOS disks
Required By     : None
Optional For    : None
Conflicts With  : None
Replaces        : None
Download Size   : 1598.96 KiB
Installed Size  : 6730.00 KiB
Packager        : Christian Hesse <[email protected]>
Build Date      : Thursday 12 October 2017 03:12:41 PM CDT
MD5 Sum         : 9784a80c234a74ec35700956edc9b724
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Re: USB HDD not loading on either computer with Artix Linux...

Reply #37 –
People, don't add to confusion. OP stated he cound sudo mount the disk, and this means kernel (modules) and userspace (mount.whatever) support is there. What is lacking is automounting support.
@kenny_w What's your desktop environment? Also, post the output of 'id'.

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Reply #38 –
LXDE is my desktop environment of choice on every computer I use. Post the output of id? With the harddrive plugged into my netbook running Debian or...?

mtools dosfstools ntfs-3g <-- I've got these 3 already too

What I'd like to be able to do is to sudo blkid /dev/sdb1 , I can't seem to be able to do that, I guess Artix doesn't recognize the OS/2 filesystem?

Re: USB HDD not loading on either computer with Artix Linux...

Reply #39 –
I can do sudo blkid /dev/sdb1 on my other computers & it'll give me the UUID of the drive, but I can't do blkid /dev/sdb1 on Artix.
I've got USB's automounting OK, but I just can't get the UUID of /dev/sdb1 , Artix doesn't recognize the filesystem structure or something..? I've got to say though, I am VERY happy with Artix Linux! I think this will be my new home - no more distrohopping, at least for my x64 computers :P

Re: USB HDD not loading on either computer with Artix Linux...

Reply #40 –
Quote from: kenny_w – on
I can do sudo blkid /dev/sdb1 on my other computers & it'll give me the UUID of the drive, but I can't do blkid /dev/sdb1 on Artix.
I've got USB's automounting OK, but I just can't get the UUID of /dev/sdb1 , Artix doesn't recognize the filesystem structure or something..? I've got to say though, I am VERY happy with Artix Linux! I think this will be my new home - no more distrohopping, at least for my x64 computers :P
What file manager are you using please

Re: USB HDD not loading on either computer with Artix Linux...

Reply #41 –
Quote from: kenny_w – on
LXDE is my desktop environment of choice on every computer I use. Post the output of id? With the harddrive plugged into my netbook running Debian or...?
In Artix, I want to see your group membership.
 
Quote from: kenny_w – on
What I'd like to be able to do is to sudo blkid /dev/sdb1 , I can't seem to be able to do that, I guess Artix doesn't recognize the OS/2 filesystem?
There's NO OS/2 filesystem on your disk, it's plain vfat. The weird manufacturer partition table just reports an ID of OS/2.

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Reply #42 –
uid=1001(kzs) gid=1002(kzs) groups=1002(kzs),7(lp),10(wheel),90(network),91(video),93(optical),95(storage),96(scanner),98(power),100(users),1001(autologin)

I'm not sure what a group membership is, but here you go Nous.

Device    Boot      Start        End    Sectors  Size Id Type
/dev/sdb1      1919230059 6204919772 4285689714    2T  a OS/2 Boot Manager
/dev/sdb2        544829025 1089655755  544826731 259.8G 65 Novell Netware 386
/dev/sdb3        168653938  168653938          0    0B 65 Novell Netware 386
/dev/sdb4      2885681152 2885734080      52929  25.9M  0 Empty

What does that OS/2 thing mean anyways? OS/2 boot manager... Why does it come up like that? O.o

Re: USB HDD not loading on either computer with Artix Linux...

Reply #43 –
this is the id thing on my main PC. I want my harddrive to work with my kzs computer, the 's' is short for stereo, as that computer controls visualizers + my stereo. I forgot to edit the /etc/group thing on my other computers, I'm gonna do that now.
uid=1001(kz) gid=1002(kz) groups=1002(kz),7(lp),10(wheel),14(uucp),90(network),91(video),93(optical),95(storage),96(scanner),98(power),100(users),996(adbusers),1001(autologin)

Edit: I have just updated the /etc/group entries on my computer that I want to connect the harddrive to, I thought I did that already but apparently I didn't so I fixed that right away. My apologies. Here is the new "id" output:

uid=1001(kzs) gid=1002(kzs) groups=1002(kzs),7(lp),10(wheel),14(uucp),90(network),91(video),93(optical),95(storage),96(scanner),98(power),100(users),996(adbusers),1001(autologin)

Re: USB HDD not loading on either computer with Artix Linux...

Reply #44 –
Your group membership looks quite complete. First of all I really hope dbus is setup to launch on boot in your Artix and is the one from our repos. If so, you must check, in order:
1. Your session. Issue loginctl show-session $XDG_SESSION_ID, which should contain Remote=no and Active=yes in its output.
2. Your polkit authentication agent. Make sure you have the one related to your desktop environment installed.

Last but not least: is udiskie installed? Do other usb media automount?