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Video Camera's

Over the last few years I've been taking a lot of video with my pocket camera.  I always used canons and they have had great video stabilization and antishake since the says of film.  I recently lost my camera in Amsterdam (it was returned by the way which is a great story in its own right) and so I replaced it with a Sony  ZV-1.  The good news about this camera is it takes serious cinamic quality video.  It has a Carl Zuess lens.  What sucks is I find it viturally unusable.  It shakes.

I have great videso from the Metropolitian with the Canon G7X.  But the Sony can not stop shaking without professional equiptment.  THEN, as of this week, it over heats.  It is really quite fustrating: 

Here is a Cannon example https://youtu.be/bPMwZjh32GE?si=J00gV--V9aKqhc1E on youtube

The Sony just is insane
http://www.mrbrklyn.com/vids/2024_02_Met/C0320.MP4

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I sold a Sony DSC-WX500 for a friend, at the time my main camera was an Olympus SP590UZ bridge camera. The spec of the Sony seemed to offer more in a compact camera than mine - 30x zoom and 18MP vs 26x and 12MP. But in reality the images were very noisy so no better than the Olympus, it had trouble focussing and the menus and controls were much less convenient, despite it being newer and worth a lot more it wasn't as good. Didn't really  compare the video, and the SP590UZ isn't that good for video either being only SD with an internal mic, but it's a great still camera yet very cheap used. Now I have a Fujifilm HS50EXR, this was one of the most expensive bridge cameras of it's time, it will take full HD and can use the MIC-ST1 hotshoe external mic - this avoids internal motor noises being picked up and the foam cover helps cut down wind noise compared to internal mics. But even this, which was the best thing I could find without getting too expensive, after reading many reviews, has poor auto focus for video, in some situations it works but others you need to switch to manual focussing, at least it has a unique feature of  manual focussing ring on the lens. It will take lovely quality video and audio (and has 42x zoom) if you can focus it!
Some of these new high spec phones with triple lenses and so on take very good quality pictures and video, judging from examples sent to me from others.
You can possibly get an old professional broadcast quality digital videocamera used for around what you might sell a ZV-1 for, although they would be more bulky.
Also with high zoom bridge cameras 0 zoom is really wide angle, so you need to zoom a little to avoid slight barrel distortion - the HS50EXR digitally corrects unlike the SP-590UZ but you can still see it slightly. Zoom is useful for wildlife shots, phones and many cameras can't match this.
Then there are go-pro style action cameras many use on YT, but most of these seem to be fixed wide angle lenses that always have barrel distortion present.

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old professional broadcast quality digital videocamera used for around what you might sell a ZV-1

You can't carry something like that into the Met (and it would suck on a fishing boat).  They won't allow it.

The ZV-1 is SUPPOSED to be a video recorder first for vloggers.  I will not move from Cannon though, next time.

I am hoping openshots sablilizer can fix the pictures.

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Vloggers who talk to a camera on a tripod?  ;D
Apparently the ZV-1 has separate menu items for still IS and movie IS, with 3 settings for movies:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=IZzG3uP01DI&t=11
You could try some different modes to see if any help. The Sony has digital IS which crops the image, so that seems to rule out a hw fault. Your previous Canon and my Fujifilm have optical stabilization in the lens. I don't think my older Olympus SP590UZ had any IS in movie mode (a sensor shift system for stills only) but it was better than that, so turning it off completely would probably improve things.

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as far as I can tll, they don't work.

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It's possible it has a fault then, perhaps a motion sensor or something, because I didn't see any reviews mentioning a problem like this, in fact one camera forum recommended this model as an alternative to action cameras - if it was under warranty it might be worth investigating if it could be returned for repair, refund or replacement.

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It's possible it has a fault then, perhaps a motion sensor or something, because I didn't see any reviews mentioning a problem like this, in fact one camera forum recommended this model as an alternative to action cameras - if it was under warranty it might be worth investigating if it could be returned for repair, refund or replacement.


I've seen more than a few complaints about it as well as it mentioned in videos.   It seems to be a known limitation of Sony.  If you use a Cannon you will never go back to this kind of defect.  It is very fustrating. 

I get some correction from openshot that helps.  I need to set stabilization to 10%.  But it is not nearly as clear as it would be if the camera made the correction.

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Is it a ZV-1 or a ZV-1 Mk2? The original had optical stabilization and software stabilization, the MK2 only has software stabilization and isn't as good. But looking at reviews with sample videos, they don't seem as bad as yours, which appears to have image de-stabilization and poor autofocus. I still suspect it's faulty, even though a Canon might be better than a properly working one of these.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLC-jOZKXrU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7HVCl7_tno

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Is it a ZV-1 or a ZV-1 Mk2? The original had optical stabilization and software stabilization, the MK2 only has software stabilization and isn't as good. But looking at reviews with sample videos, they don't seem as bad as yours, which appears to have image de-stabilization and poor autofocus. I still suspect it's faulty, even though a Canon might be better than a properly working one of these.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLC-jOZKXrU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7HVCl7_tno


Nah - the Camera just sucks and I will never buy another Sony.
 

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I was looking at used Sony DSC-HX400V's on eBay just recently and noticed a lot of examples were being sold as non-working, when I searched to see if there were common problems with this model, it turned out the image stabilization goes wrong on many / most examples after 2-4 years of use, this also affected several other Sony camera models at the time:
https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/4364966
The ZV-1 came out in 2020 while that discussion was in 2019, and you didn't get an onscreen fault code, but the description of the effect sounds quite similar. This is a bit late to add on this thread, but might be generally interesting to know.