Blood in the water now... 05 September 2025, 23:33:28 It is hard to imaging these authors would had generated this much income any other way .... and I am sure every copyrght troll now senses blood in the water. The key finding here is that Anthropic acquired access to these books illegally.https://apnews.com/article/anthropic-copyright-authors-settlement-training-f294266bc79a16ec90d2ddccdf435164Anthropic pays authors $1.5 billion to settle copyright infringement lawsuit | AP NewsMatt O'Brien8–10 minutesNEW YORK (AP) — Artificial intelligence company Anthropic has agreed to pay $1.5 billion to settle a class-action lawsuit by book authors who say the company took pirated copies of their works to train its chatbot.The landmark settlement, if approved by a judge as soon as Monday, could mark a turning point in legal battles between AI companies and the writers, visual artists and other creative professionals who accuse them of copyright infringement.The company has agreed to pay authors or publishers about $3,000 for each of an estimated 500,000 books covered by the settlement.“As best as we can tell, it’s the largest copyright recovery ever,” said Justin Nelson, a lawyer for the authors. “It is the first of its kind in the AI era.”A trio of authors — thriller novelist Andrea Bartz and nonfiction writers Charles Graeber and Kirk Wallace Johnson — sued last year and now represent a broader group of writers and publishers whose books Anthropic downloaded to train its chatbot Claude. Quote Selected 1 Likes
Re: Blood in the water now... Reply #1 – 05 September 2025, 23:35:58 https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2023/09/books3-database-generative-ai-training-copyright-infringement/675363/ Quote Selected 1 Likes
Re: Blood in the water now... Reply #2 – Yesterday at 05:56:21 Unfortunately, I think the cats are out of the corral.Probably 1.5 billion is something Anthropic was already prepared to write off as "the cost of doing business."On my side, at age 65 with maybe some inherent literary talent and some degree of haphazardly cultivated skills, something I dislike is when some forum wag comments on one of my posts with "the chatbot is strong with this one."So, is Anthropic also going to erase their LLMs that were trained on the purloined data as part of the settlement? I think that would be the other half of justice being served. Quote Selected
Re: Blood in the water now... Reply #3 – Yesterday at 06:34:39 Quote from: k4100x – on Yesterday at 05:56:21Unfortunately, I think the cats are out of the corral.Probably 1.5 billion is something Anthropic was already prepared to write off as "the cost of doing business."On my side, at age 65 with maybe some inherent literary talent and some degree of haphazardly cultivated skills, something I dislike is when some forum wag comments on one of my posts with "the chatbot is strong with this one."So, is Anthropic also going to erase their LLMs that were trained on the purloined data as part of the settlement? I think that would be the other half of justice being served.According to the reports the agrement provides that Anthropic has to destroy the data.. and is the library of books. I don't know about the training itself, or if it possible to undo a neural networks learning without shutting down the AI.It doesn't really concern me. What concerns me is that the amount paid for the copyright infringment, which is downloading these pirated books, is far more valuable than the actual works of art in a comerical space. Quote Selected