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Re: GNOME Desktop Environment No Longer Supported

Reply #15
somehow, i felt it was coming, given the way gnome took.
sad news, in itself, a desktop environnment should't be that dependant of an init. but that's what is is.
i hope the next one wont be kde.

Re: GNOME Desktop Environment No Longer Supported

Reply #16
In the omniverse repo there are the Budgie and Pantheon desktops which afaik are Gnome based. I don't know if these are similar enough to Gnome itself and what their future looks like, but these might be worth a try.

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Re: GNOME Desktop Environment No Longer Supported

Reply #17
somehow, i felt it was coming, given the way gnome took.
sad news, in itself, a desktop environnment should't be that dependant of an init. but that's what is is.
i hope the next one wont be kde.

If they made drkonqi rely on systemd with no viable workarounds being worth pursuing, I can kind of see it getting worse down the road. Maybe by KDE7 or whatever.

Coupled with the usual shit-ass attitude responses from the core KDE devs that go along the lines of "oh, what's wrong with systemd? Don't you want a forward-thinking Linux Desktop™️?", just like with Wayland.

I'd hope to see Trinity Desktop pop up again, assuming no nasty surprises there.

Re: GNOME Desktop Environment No Longer Supported

Reply #18
Trinity was in the omniverse repo for a while but not used by many. It was dropped in favor of the Moksha Desktop which is very lightweight, feature rich and versatile, and independent. https://wiki.artixlinux.org/Site/MokshaDesktopForArtix

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Re: GNOME Desktop Environment No Longer Supported

Reply #19
In the omniverse repo there are the Budgie and Pantheon desktops which afaik are Gnome based. I don't know if these are similar enough to Gnome itself and what their future looks like, but these might be worth a try.

artist
Pantheon uses gnome shell directly, so they're affected by this and won't work on nonsystemd anymore. Not sure about budgie.
https://github.com/elementary/session-settings/blob/main/wayland-sessions/pantheon-wayland.desktop.in#L4
https://github.com/elementary/session-settings/blob/main/xsessions/pantheon.desktop.in#L4

Re: GNOME Desktop Environment No Longer Supported

Reply #20
The Pantheon pkgs in Omniverse will be frozen then.

"Budgie Session is a softish fork of gnome-session, designed to provide a stable session manager for Budgie 10.x"
That is from https://github.com/BuddiesOfBudgie/budgie-session

So, Budgie might have a future on non-systemd distro's, let's see. I'll test it on an updated system soon.

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Re: GNOME Desktop Environment No Longer Supported

Reply #21
It seems the Budgie desktop is also borked by the new gnome-session so this will be the end of the road of it, same as for Pantheon.

artist

Re: GNOME Desktop Environment No Longer Supported

Reply #22
attitude responses from the core KDE devs
Heh, they are at the opposite extreme of gnome, where instead of oversimplifying at the cost of severe interdependence they instead make too much bloat and even qt6 based kde libraries are enormous and config files are still over the place :D
I still use some gnome and kde software all right to this day.

Re: GNOME Desktop Environment No Longer Supported

Reply #23
KISS 2025

https://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20250929#kdegnome
https://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=gnomeos
https://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=kdelinux
"Wer alles kann, macht nichts richtig"

Artix USE="runit openrc slim openbox lxde gtk2 qt4 qt5 qt6 conky
-gtk3 -gtk4 -adwaita{cursors,themes,icons,fonts} -gnome3 -kde -plasma -wayland "