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Re: Install Artix PLASMA/KDE from the scratch plus BTRFS and LUKS

Reply #15
I would like to ask the question from Cosque again if there is a plan to build a version of Artix.iso  with Plasma?
I would like to install a fresh Artix only with KDE Plasma 5 as my favorite Desktop and without LXQT is additionally installed.

Thanks.
The LXQT iso on sourceforge can install plasma fine just choose "netinstall=yes" at the grub boot screen.


Re: Install Artix PLASMA/KDE from the scratch plus BTRFS and LUKS

Reply #17
I don't understand what you guys see in that thing, it is like windows just worse.
Too many things on desktop, too many options and configurations for nothing,  things being fuzzy, half an hour in it and I started panicking and hitting ctrl-alt-del!

Noplace like openbox with a crafty conky and my favorite terminal

Re: Install Artix PLASMA/KDE from the scratch plus BTRFS and LUKS

Reply #18
I don't understand what you guys see in that thing, it is like windows just worse.
Too many things on desktop, too many options and configurations for nothing,  things being fuzzy, half an hour in it and I started panicking and hitting ctrl-alt-del!

Noplace like openbox with a crafty conky and my favorite terminal
that's the way keep it simple and enjoy ;D

Re: Install Artix PLASMA/KDE from the scratch plus BTRFS and LUKS

Reply #19
I don't understand what you guys see in that thing, it is like windows just worse.
Too many things on desktop, too many options and configurations for nothing,  things being fuzzy, half an hour in it and I started panicking and hitting ctrl-alt-del!

Noplace like openbox with a crafty conky and my favorite terminal
I am an old windows damaged user, who works with Linux for only 2 years.
Give me time guys.  8)

Re: Install Artix PLASMA/KDE from the scratch plus BTRFS and LUKS

Reply #20
You will learn hopefully All bells and whistles like KDE/Gnome/Cinnamon are fine but they are just built for the developer, WMs openbox/JWM/Awesome/i3/etc are built by the user and tailored to their needs, work-flow tiling WMs look intimidating at 1st, but once you master them you see why they are so popular with the pros.

Don't get me wrong In our house we have Gnome3 on void one one machine that runs 18 hrs a day, again it looks alien till you forget the windows way then its just logical to use like I can run upto 35 projects on 35  clean workspaces at one time the way I set it up as a stacking manager and nothing spills as a stacking manager over so no pollution, + I can use it as a tiling manager.

On my personal machine using Artix, I use JWM  now as my main work horse I find it more flexible than Any DE or even OB, lighting fast stable. never had a crash or freeze very similar to OB but all settings are on 1 file I split the file into 5 for easy setting the whole interface is setup from those files want a dock just tell it to draw a dock. don't like the headers,buttons,style, want a start menu, just tell it what you want it to draw done, sounds advanced but its not really and very light meaning ram is used for your advantage not the DE, means things are faster.

Re: Install Artix PLASMA/KDE from the scratch plus BTRFS and LUKS

Reply #21
You will learn hopefully All bells and whistles like KDE/Gnome/Cinnamon are fine but they are just built for the developer, WMs openbox/JWM/Awesome/i3/etc are built by the user and tailored to their needs, work-flow tiling WMs look intimidating at 1st, but once you master them you see why they are so popular with the pros.

Don't get me wrong In our house we have Gnome3 on void one one machine that runs 18 hrs a day, again it looks alien till you forget the windows way then its just logical to use like I can run upto 35 projects on 35  clean workspaces at one time the way I set it up as a stacking manager and nothing spills as a stacking manager over so no pollution, + I can use it as a tiling manager.

On my personal machine using Artix, I use JWM  now as my main work horse I find it more flexible than Any DE or even OB, lighting fast stable. never had a crash or freeze very similar to OB but all settings are on 1 file I split the file into 5 for easy setting the whole interface is setup from those files want a dock just tell it to draw a dock. don't like the headers,buttons,style, want a start menu, just tell it what you want it to draw done, sounds advanced but its not really and very light meaning ram is used for your advantage not the DE, means things are faster.
Your comments are very revealing and it confirms my decision to turn my back on Windows and to look into Linux in my old age. Not only that Linux is much more stable and leaner, it can be cut to the smallest on your own needs, if you know how  :D .
It also confirms that it's not just surfing the web, but that it's a philosophy that will provide many exciting chapters for the user, if you get involved  8) .
In this sense, I will certainly test other DE on virtual machines and let myself be surprised by the functionality.
However, I will not get around using KDE for my wife's computer  8) .

Re: Install Artix PLASMA/KDE from the scratch plus BTRFS and LUKS

Reply #22
Your comments are very revealing and it confirms my decision to turn my back on Windows and to look into Linux in my old age. Not only that Linux is much more stable and leaner, it can be cut to the smallest on your own needs, if you know how  :D .
It also confirms that it's not just surfing the web, but that it's a philosophy that will provide many exciting chapters for the user, if you get involved  8) .
In this sense, I will certainly test other DE on virtual machines and let myself be surprised by the functionality.
However, I will not get around using KDE for my wife's computer  8) .
No need to apologize for your use of KDE. I am a longtime Linux user and I can say that Plasma is my DE of choice. It can seem overwhelmingly complex at first with it's multitude of configuration options, but once you find your way around it a bit, you can easily set it up to look or be what you want it to be. I have used many different DE's, but always find them lacking in some way or another compared to Plasma for my use. :)
It may not end up being your choice, and there are lots of alternatives in the Linux world. That's one of the great things about Linux after all.
Have fun.

Best regards.
We should try to be kind to everyone.....we are all fighting some sort of battle.

Re: Install Artix PLASMA/KDE from the scratch plus BTRFS and LUKS

Reply #23
However, I will not get around using KDE for my wife's computer  8) .

When a friends win7 took a dive (licensing problems, black screen, lost key, ..?) I took most of her /home related stuff and used an LXQT desktop and made it appear the same and run similar software (chrome).  Same background, etc.
After a while when I checked on her to see how she adjusted she asked "what do you mean, isn't this windows that I am on now?"  .... I was tempted to respond that it was a newer version of windows ... but I told the truth.  She said whatever it is it is running much faster, it never sticks/freezes, and everything she does just flows better.

For a full DE I only like LXDE, but I can see what it is that people like in plasma.  It just feels like an over-furnished apartment to me.

Re: Install Artix PLASMA/KDE from the scratch plus BTRFS and LUKS

Reply #24
After a while when I checked on her to see how she adjusted she asked "what do you mean, isn't this windows that I am on now?"  .... I was tempted to respond that it was a newer version of windows ... but I told the truth.  She said whatever it is it is running much faster, it never sticks/freezes, and everything she does just flows better.

The truth is that most users don't need Windows for what they do.  My dad has an old laptop from my sister that was running Vista and of course was horrifically slow and out of date.  Replaced it with Xubuntu, made sure Chrome and LibreOffice was installed.  Does everything that he needs.  Same works for most people that don't do modern gaming or require specialised software.

Re: Install Artix PLASMA/KDE from the scratch plus BTRFS and LUKS

Reply #25
As long as this post is pinned, I thought I should throw in my 2 cents for when I installed KDE plasma. I ran into trouble about dbus not being able to sync the environment.

To solve that I just did "dbus-uuidgen > /var/lib/dbus/machine-id".  That's the only trouble I ran into while installing KDE, otherwise everything was business as usual.

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