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Install ISO

Hi, I'm new here. I've been running Kubuntu for years and had Manjaro Deepin on a laptop for a while. I downloaded your KDE community edition to try out on the laptop. It boots to a beautiful desktop, all the menus work, but when I clicked on "Install", nothing happened. Poking around the menus some more, none of the software apps will run either when selected. Any ideas? Thanks.

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artix-community-qt-openrc-20220123-x86_64.iso

Computer is Asus Republic of Gamers G75VW Laptop

Booting from USB stick made with balenaEtcher

Quote from: strajder – on
What is the exact full name of the ISO?

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Quote from: jkolak – on
Booting from USB stick made with balenaEtcher
Don't use Balena Etcher. You can use any other program listed on that link outside of the "Inadvisable methods" section.

Other than that, I have just booted the ISO in QEMU and had no trouble executing Firefox alongside Inkscape and the Calamares installer, as seen in the screenshot.

The main purpose of LiveISO is twofold:
  • Serve as the environment to run the installer,
  • Serve as the environment to repair the already installed system.
Both of those are possible with the above mentioned ISO. If some program doesn't work, try installing Artix from the ISO and updating the system.

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Well, that's interesting. Just before you posted this I was able to start installing the official release iso from calvinh above.

It successfully installed, but now the installed copy is behaving the same as the community version was on the usb stick -- it boots to the desktop, but when I click on something, the icon appears briefly in the task bar and then immediately disappears without launching whatever I tried to run.

I'm starting to think my computer is going bad. As far as using the boot iso to repair the installation, I don't see an option for that like I am used to on the Kubuntu installer. It only offers me to wipe a partition and install. I'm exiting to TTY to update and see if that helps.

[UPDATE] After updating the system, it still behaves the same with the program icon briefly showing on the task bar and disappearing. It does the same if I launch by keyboard command, such as alt-ctl t to bring up Konsole.

Quote from: strajder – on
Don't use Balena Etcher. You can use any other program listed on that link outside of the "Inadvisable methods" section.

Other than that, I have just booted the ISO in QEMU and had no trouble executing Firefox alongside Inkscape and the Calamares installer, as seen in the screenshot.

The main purpose of LiveISO is twofold:
  • Serve as the environment to run the installer,
  • Serve as the environment to repair the already installed system.
Both of those are possible with the above mentioned ISO. If some program doesn't work, try installing Artix from the ISO and updating the system.

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Quote from: jkolak – on
It successfully installed, but now the installed copy is behaving the same as the community version was on the usb stick -- it boots to the desktop, but when I click on something, the icon appears briefly in the task bar and then immediately disappears without launching whatever I tried to run.
Also see: Applications won't open while wireless connection is active.

If that solves your issue, it is NetworkManager's fault. It doesn't respect the requirement by X.Org of having a stable hostname<->IP binding.

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So the last two things I had to check were to remake the USB stick with Multiwriter and try running software without the WiFi on. While waiting on the Multiwriter to remake the stick, I booted up the laptop and found that today it was working right. I checked and found WiFi was already connected.

So the only place I am stuck now is that it looks like the official ISO is pretty much a CLI users distro and has no software center such as I am used to in Manjaro Deepin or Kubuntu. I'm wondering how I can add one or if I would be better off to try again with the community edition.

Quote from: strajder – on
If that solves your issue, it is NetworkManager's fault. It doesn't respect the requirement by X.Org of having a stable hostname<->IP binding.
 

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no, there is no software centre gui thing.   Command line is your friend by default, much quicker and more efficient, although if you really wanted,  you can install octopi or pamac, both are in aur, and to get that working, you'll have to install yay (or paru) and make the repo accessible etc.   Artix is different, very clean from the get go,  those things can be found by doing a quick search.  I should point out that artix does have a short sharp learning curve (where and why it pulls from its own repo's, what using a different init means in real terms etc), but it most certainly is worth sticking with because the reward vastly out weighs the initial learning bit - it just takes a bit of pro-active searching once in a while.

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Quote from: jkolak – on
So the only place I am stuck now is that it looks like the official ISO is pretty much a CLI users distro and has no software center such as I am used to in Manjaro Deepin or Kubuntu. I'm wondering how I can add one or if I would be better off to try again with the community edition.
To describe Artix in as few words as possible, Artix is Arch without systemd. Whatever holds true for Arch also holds true for Artix. For more details, you should read the Arch wiki:

https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Pacman
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The pacman package manager is one of the major distinguishing features of Arch Linux. It combines a simple binary package format with an easy-to-use build system. The goal of pacman is to make it possible to easily manage packages, whether they are from the official repositories or the user's own builds.

https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/AUR_helpers
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Warning: AUR helpers are not supported by Arch Linux. You should become familiar with the manual build process in order to be prepared to troubleshoot problems.

There was a lengthy discussion on whether to include graphical package managers octopi and pamac in Artix, the final decision to include them in an unofficial repository "universe" was a result of a compromise:
https://artixlinux.org/news.php#Octopi_and_Pamac_moved_to_%5Buniverse%5D

If it were only up to me, I wouldn't have those included at all. I listed my reasons in that thread, so if you are interested read the thread: https://forum.artixlinux.org/index.php/topic,3186.0.html

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my apologies for that (ref aur and not universe)!  A day without learning is a wasted day.  ! 

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Thanks for taking the time to personally respond to me. I appreciate the links you provided to help me understand the principles of Artix. I would like to stay with Artix because it was recommended for making the best decisions for the future of Linux. I have some experience with Arch and pacman from having used Manjaro for awhile, but the change from leaving systemd brings unexpected consequences in terms of having to limit software choices to the official Artix repositories. I've read others before saying that systemd has to go, so I am that glad you took the leap, and I see that for AUR this is more of a problem than even the possibility of malicious software.

Searching for software via CLI instead of a software manager also takes getting used to for me. Where I don't know the package name, I find the Arch Package Search web page to be helpful, but when there's multiple files under the search results, it's hard to know which components are needed. Yesterday I needed to install VirtualBox, but VirtualBox reported an installation error after installing from CLI. I installed Octopi to help me and that got it running. I'll still limit myself to Artix repositories, but I will keep Octopi and Pamac installed to help me when I'm stuck like this. I think I'll still install a community edition on a spare computer just to see what the possibilities are.

Quote from: strajder – on
To describe Artix in as few words as possible, Artix is Arch without systemd. Whatever holds true for Arch also holds true for Artix. For more details, you should read the Arch wiki

There was a lengthy discussion on whether to include graphical package managers octopi and pamac in Artix, the final decision to include them in an unofficial repository "universe" was a result of a compromise:

If it were only up to me, I wouldn't have those included at all. I listed my reasons in that thread, so if you are interested read the thread

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Thanks for your help.

Quote from: gavincc – on
no, there is no software centre gui thing.   Command line is your friend by default, much quicker and more efficient, although if you really wanted,  you can install octopi or pamac, both are in aur, and to get that working, you'll have to install yay (or paru) and make the repo accessible etc.   Artix is different, very clean from the get go,  those things can be found by doing a quick search.  I should point out that artix does have a short sharp learning curve (where and why it pulls from its own repo's, what using a different init means in real terms etc), but it most certainly is worth sticking with because the reward vastly out weighs the initial learning bit - it just takes a bit of pro-active searching once in a while.