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Re: You moved from distro X to Artix, why ?

Reply #60
Slackware 3.0, 3.1,.. to 7.0 when we switched to Bob Youngs Red Hat starting with 4.2 but  then quickly to SuSe.  I used Suse for a long while through the transition through to openSUSE.  I was increasingly unhappy with the management and much of the community.  SystemD was the straw to break the camels back and I then went shopping for a new distro.  I tried Devuan, and disliked the community.  I settled on Manjaro and was happy to see a non-systemd version, which folded and I followed it here.

We have a Linux group in NYC called NYLXS.  In thae context of their work, I have probably tested at least 100 different distros.  Much of them look the same after a while.  I am not a fan of Debian, so Artix was a great place for me to stop.  I am hoping to never have to change OS again.

Re: You moved from distro X to Artix, why ?

Reply #61
Planning to move from Mint Debian to Artix because with all the recent password leaks and the apparent desire to shit up the old Linux ecosystems so Red Hat can make money fixing things I am very paranoid about data theft.

I can't afford to have my ID stolen, I am too poor to survive even a 3 month loss of access to savings and income.

This really annoys me because I do a lot of gaming and modding stuff, and I need access to weird old Windows programs. Typically I use VirtualBox, but support for that is hit or miss in non-systemd OSes it seems. Windows 11 (or 10 LTSC) is clearly not an option. None of these programs work on Mac. That means I have to learn Artix's installation and maintenance paradigms, and then learn how to deal with virtual machines from a terminal interface, all so I can play "muh vidyeo gaemhz".

Once I finish all my modding projects I want to make a few games, probably starting with Orx engine, and them moving to something fully 3D. I will probably have limited options for the latter too. All because Poettering, Red Hat, and the Gnome dweebs had to drop a fat turd in the collective punch bowl.

Re: You moved from distro X to Artix, why ?

Reply #62
I moved from Archlinux for systemd-free. Now I want to move to Voidlinux for logind-free further.

Some of the same. Arch to Artix, then to Void and now back to Artix for the long Xlibre haul.
Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious

Re: You moved from distro X to Artix, why ?

Reply #63
I moved from Devuan; more accurately, I installed alongside it for better support with new hardware. I've heard that Arch has better support for new hardware and offers more packages, modules, etc. Since I didn't want systemd, I chose Artix over Arch.
However, ultimately, I'm disappointed. I couldn't find what I was looking for. For example, I can't get ryzenadj to work on Artix. It works on Devuan without reading the PMM table, but in Artix, I haven't been able to correctly install either ryzen_smu from GitHub or ryzen_smu_dkms from AUR. Both install successfully, but they don't function as expected.
Additionally, using ppacman and yay together feels more complicated than using apt, and there are some odd dependencies. For example, even though I only want to use gvenview or Plasma itself, both depend on baloo. It's challenging to remove baloo while on a Debian-based Linux distribution, this isn't an issue.
So, I'm still trying to solve all these issues but always revert to another installation for serious work.

Re: You moved from distro X to Artix, why ?

Reply #64
For example, even though I only want to use gvenview or Plasma itself, both depend on baloo. It's challenging to remove baloo while on a Debian-based Linux distribution, this isn't an issue.
Some of the KDE packaging decisions on Arch are frustrating. Everything tends to get dragged in. And basically Artix inherits those decisions.
Sometimes there are packages on the AUR with a reduced set of dependencies.

ryzen_smu-dkms-git works for me but I have to run
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sudo monitor_cpu -f
I've always thought maybe my CPU didn't support PM table but I've just read it does. But also it wouldn't surprise me if the author has reversed engineered most of it so some support might take a while.

Re: You moved from distro X to Artix, why ?

Reply #65
I moved to Artix to test out XLibre on a Arch-Type platform. I'm staying with Artix because I'm finding that my system is much more responsive without SystemD.

Re: You moved from distro X to Artix, why ?

Reply #66

[...] I can't get ryzenadj to work on Artix. It works on Devuan without reading the PMM table, but in Artix, I haven't been able to correctly install either ryzen_smu from GitHub or ryzen_smu_dkms from AUR. Both install successfully, but they don't function as expected. [...]
This would suggest that Devuan ships additional modules that are commonly used by ryzen platforms. Stuff like this absolutely won't happen here with pure -artix branded kernel due to how Arch (and Artix) devs package their stuff.

Here's what I'd suggest instead, but it might not apply like at all (due to hw being way different). Try linux-zen kernel variant instead as it might have those additional modules already (sudo pacman -S linux-zen + use DKMS whenever needed ie. if nvidia GPU is used, follow https://github.com/korvahannu/arch-nvidia-drivers-installation-guide and use nvidia-dkms instead of nvidia package). When it comes to mine AsRock B450 Pro4 + R5 1600AF none of the available (k10temp, zenpower3 or even that ryzen_smu which only printed smu version on my platform) works with this configuration. Take a look at your mobo manual and check the internet about which sensor controllers your platform uses. What worked was looking directly for nct6779-isa sensor drivers, so I got the sources and BUILDPKG, compiled, loaded - Sensors finally worked OOTB.

Re: You moved from distro X to Artix, why ?

Reply #67
ryzen_smu-dkms-git works for me but I have to run
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sudo monitor_cpu -f
I've always thought maybe my CPU didn't support PM table but I've just read it does. But also it wouldn't surprise me if the author has reversed engineered most of it so some support might take a while.

I've found where the problem came from. ryzen_smu_dkms does support Strix Point, but doesn't support 0x005D0009. So, I have to remove it.


Re: You moved from distro X to Artix, why ?

Reply #69
I wouldn't say I moved here as such, just broadening my horizons. I have primarily used Slackware in all my Linux years. I started in about 1999 with either Mandrake or Red Hat (pre-RHEL and Fedora), can't remember which. Spent some time using Debian, until APT frustrations drove me away from that. Tried Gentoo and Funtoo, but decided I had better things to do with my time.

I always liked Arch, especially pacman and AUR, but the systemd virus drove me away from that. It just made sense to give Artix a try, and I have been mightily impressed so far. I run Slackware on the desktop, and now Artix on my laptop, an old ThinkPad T61, Impressive performance with 8GB RAM and Plasma 6!

Re: You moved from distro X to Artix, why ?

Reply #70
I have just (today) installed Artix.  Before that I was using MX for several years.  Before that, Slackware.  Before that, Arch, and I left Arch shortly after they imposed systemd.  Before that I think I used Mint, and before that openSUSE.

MX Linux is good and generally works out-of-the-box, but I don't like having to do a fresh install.  I missed the rolling release.  Besides, the latest MX release gave me some issues.  I was toying with the idea of going back to Arch and gritting my teeth and living with systemd and then I happened upon Artix on reddit.  Hallelujah!  All the parts of Arch I like, but not the huge thing I don't!

Slackware is also good but maintaining the system takes a lot of time, what with compiling slackbuilds.

Gotta say, I'm impressed.  The installer is quick and easy, and I have my system up and running almost the way I like it with only a couple of hours' work.  A few things to tweak and hack but that's the fun.

 

Re: You moved from distro X to Artix, why ?

Reply #72
The last distro I used (for a few years) until it ended in March of 25, was Lilidog. Loved it, fast, really worked well on my old equipment and the community around the distro was also a big pull.

When it finished, wasn't sure where to go but really wanted to pull away from Systemd as much as possible... So, I installed Artix (many times over, openrc, runit and Dinit) made a load of screwups and mistakes, but learned a ton in the process.... Now running Artix (dinit) on my old HP Elitebook and also as a home server on my old 2009 MacBook Pro. It is AMAZING!! I now have a home server that works, it's really fast, and coupled with Tailscale, I can access my files from anywhere.

Still learning, but really really enjoying this fine distro and community. 👍😊

Re: You moved from distro X to Artix, why ?

Reply #73
I now have a home server that works, it's really fast, and coupled with Tailscale, I can access my files from anywhere.

Still learning, but really really enjoying this fine distro and community. 👍😊

Congratulations and welcome to Artix!

I would love to know how you managed to get tailscale to work with Artix as it appears to need systemd?

Thanks.

Re: You moved from distro X to Artix, why ?

Reply #74
I now have a home server that works, it's really fast, and coupled with Tailscale, I can access my files from anywhere.

Still learning, but really really enjoying this fine distro and community. 👍😊

Congratulations and welcome to Artix!

I would love to know how you managed to get tailscale to work with Artix as it appears to need systemd?

Thanks.

Thank you, it's great to be here..... :)

I downloaded and installed the tailscale and tailscale-dinit packages, installed, and then allowed them through ufw (i think) and it all just seemed to work. I don't remember doing anything special or having any issues or problems. It works across both mobile and wifi wherever i happen to be, ssh into the machine via termux (android mobile & tablet) and my other laptop (also with Artix dinit) can also connect. so i'm able to just log into my server machine and do whatever i would normally do. Everything works.

Having said that, although i log into my machine (as a user) most of the services are run "system wide" as its only me using this machine. So i don't need to use the "user" part of dinit (hope that makes sense?).

I actually had far more problems when i temporarily tried to change over to a debian system (just a few days ago). I had already set up a really good and running artix system but thought perhaps i should run a debian system instead, as it could possibly be "better" somehow..... BIG MISTAKE! It was awful and i had so many problems, plus systemd is so slow and clunky, especially on this old hardware. So i deleted it, installed Artix again, and a few hours later it was all back up and running.... fast, easy and fun!

Have you tried Tailscale on whatever you're using?