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Re: You moved from distro X to Artix, why ?

Reply #75 –
I've been a long time Arch user. Had used Artix for a couple of years. Then went back to Arch. I jumped back to Artix, simply because of xlibre. Wanted to try and support this new project. 

Currently running Artix with s6 and dwm (on xlibre, of coz). So far, so good.

Re: You moved from distro X to Artix, why ?

Reply #76 –
Quote from: Zendjinn – on
Quote from: rayburn – on


Congratulations and welcome to Artix!

I would love to know how you managed to get tailscale to work with Artix as it appears to need systemd?

Thanks.

Thank you, it's great to be here..... :)

I downloaded and installed the tailscale and tailscale-dinit packages, installed, and then allowed them through ufw (i think) and it all just seemed to work. I don't remember doing anything special or having any issues or problems. It works across both mobile and wifi wherever i happen to be, ssh into the machine via termux (android mobile & tablet) and my other laptop (also with Artix dinit) can also connect. so i'm able to just log into my server machine and do whatever i would normally do. Everything works.

Having said that, although i log into my machine (as a user) most of the services are run "system wide" as its only me using this machine. So i don't need to use the "user" part of dinit (hope that makes sense?).

I actually had far more problems when i temporarily tried to change over to a debian system (just a few days ago). I had already set up a really good and running artix system but thought perhaps i should run a debian system instead, as it could possibly be "better" somehow..... BIG MISTAKE! It was awful and i had so many problems, plus systemd is so slow and clunky, especially on this old hardware. So i deleted it, installed Artix again, and a few hours later it was all back up and running.... fast, easy and fun!

Have you tried Tailscale on whatever you're using? 

Thank you so much for your detailed reply, it is most helpful. Tbh I hadn't searched the Artix repos for tailscale, just looked at their website. I haven't tried it out on any device yet, but will have a go tomorrow.

Thanks again!

Re: You moved from distro X to Artix, why ?

Reply #77 –
Quote from: rayburn – on

Thank you so much for your detailed reply, it is most helpful. Tbh I hadn't searched the Artix repos for tailscale, just looked at their website. I haven't tried it out on any device yet, but will have a go tomorrow.

Thanks again!

Hope it goes well..... I have enabled "Omniverse" as well as the arch support and repos (after the Artix ones of course) and have Syncthing, & Navidrome running over LAN & Tailscale. It's wonderful. :)

Re: You moved from distro X to Artix, why ?

Reply #78 –
Quote from: Zendjinn – on
Quote from: rayburn – on

Thank you so much for your detailed reply, it is most helpful. Tbh I hadn't searched the Artix repos for tailscale, just looked at their website. I haven't tried it out on any device yet, but will have a go tomorrow.

Thanks again!

Hope it goes well..... I have enabled "Omniverse" as well as the arch support and repos (after the Artix ones of course) and have Syncthing, & Navidrome running over LAN & Tailscale. It's wonderful. :)

Installed, up and running today. Thanks for your help!

Re: You moved from distro X to Artix, why ?

Reply #79 –
Quote from: glgl-schemer – on
I moved from Archlinux for systemd-free. Now I want to move to Voidlinux for logind-free further.

May I ask why you would need to move to Void to experience logind-free?  BTW they support elogind, setd, turnstile, ..., and to support elogind they need to build apps with systemd_logind enabled and linking to its libraries, since in the end they are a binary distro as well.  I'm not using elogind on artix, I first installed seatd and then performed pacman -Rdd elogind, this topic seatd support (elogind alternative) helped me find out about it when I was looking how to use seatd and get rid of polkit just to find out I could also get rid of elogind at once.  No issues so far withou elogind on artix.  I'm not using dbus neither calling for it, and I've found that's harder to get rid of, but both void and artix are binary distros, so building without some options is not as easy on them as it would be on source based distros.  I'll explore later at least how not to start the dbus daemon/service by removing it as dependency on other services, but I haven't had the time...

That said, of course you might have some other interests on void, but I was curious how elogind is the motivation to look at void.

Re: You moved from distro X to Artix, why ?

Reply #80 –
Void has an option to build from source if you want to.

I do not how Void handles logind, in Artix packages depend on it and you need a service, that can be seatd or elogind see https://forum.artixlinux.org/index.php/topic,7626.msg45766.html#msg45766.
This is related to some Arch legacy maybe, IDK.

If you use x11 you will use elogind see https://forum.artixlinux.org/index.php/topic,7778.msg48654.html#msg48654.

I know that Alpine does not need elogind to run x11, packages do not depend on it and you do not need to have any logind service.

Re: You moved from distro X to Artix, why ?

Reply #81 –
I've used a plethora of distributions, few out of curiosity, few out of necessity.

I was using Linux Mint Debian Edition before moving over to Artix, being that vanilla Debian Stable was my first ever Linux Distribution. The news about X11 Libre in Galaxy finally pushed me over.

Before ditching systemd I tried to get into the Fedora "Atomic" desktops, for a couple of years actually, but over time and some much-needed learning I found out the hard way that none of these atomic Linux distributions solved any actual problems for desktop usage nor simplifies low-level maintenance... It probably doesn't help to subject myself to a form of vendor lock-in, either. So I played around in a virtual machine, learned how to manually set up LUKS and an EFI Boot Stub, then settled down with OpenRC. Arch is also just plain fun, nothing like asking around for niche packages and the AUR covering my exact needs.
 

Re: You moved from distro X to Artix, why ?

Reply #83 –
I moved at the very beginning of the Artix project, coming from Manjaro OpenRC when that project merged with Arch OpenRC - simply because Manjaro OpenRC sailed off into the sunset. Before that, I used Linux Mint and Ubuntu. My system was completely wrecked trying to upgrade from an older version of Mint to the one with systemd. I decided at that point that I liked neither systemd nor the major distro upgrades in the Ubuntu world.

At work, I also use Red Hat (shudder), so I am unpleasantly familiar with systemd. My main server OS is FreeBSD.

Re: You moved from distro X to Artix, why ?

Reply #84 –
Quote from: kiblaster – on
Void has an option to build from source if you want to.

I do not how Void handles logind, in Artix packages depend on it and you need a service, that can be seatd or elogind see https://forum.artixlinux.org/index.php/topic,7626.msg45766.html#msg45766.
This is related to some Arch legacy maybe, IDK.

If you use x11 you will use elogind see https://forum.artixlinux.org/index.php/topic,7778.msg48654.html#msg48654.

I know that Alpine does not need elogind to run x11, packages do not depend on it and you do not need to have any logind service.



Well, building oneself is an option, but then I'd rather use a source based distro,  ;D but that's me, jeje  But if it's sort of hybrid, like building just what one needs, then that might be an interesting avenue.

Weird, there might be something weird with my boxes, I don't have elogind, just the library to avoid breaking dependencies further:

Code: [Select]
% pacman -Qs elogind
local/libelogind 255.17-2
    elogind client libraries
local/seatd-dinit 20230412-3 (dinit-world)
    dinit service scripts for seatd

And I'm using x11:

Code: [Select]
% pacman -Qs xorg-server
local/xlibre-xserver 25.0.0.7-1 (xlibre)
    XLibre fork of X.Org X server
local/xlibre-xserver-common 25.0.0.7-1 (xlibre)
    XLibre fork of X.Org Xorg server common files
local/xlibre-xserver-xvfb 25.0.0.7-1 (xlibre)
    XLibre fork of X.Org virtual framebuffer X server

But I'm not using any daemon/service to start x11, I do it with xinit/startx.  And although I see dbus everywhere, I'm not populating its env vars, for example I'm not calling for exec dbus-run-session i3, instead I'm calling for example exec i3, and to be honest I haven't noticed anything wrong.  On xlibre I have issues at times when even with dpms off, but the screen is locked, it gets unlocked but the screen remains blank.  But that's not related with elogind neither dbus AFAIK, and it doesn't happen with legacy xorg.

I haven't hybernated yet with current setup, perhaps that's not working...

Perhaps what I believe I have is just an illusion  :(

Re: You moved from distro X to Artix, why ?

Reply #85 –
For now, it's the only distro to first-party support xlibre afaik.

It's also nice for me to switch to rolling release again. I had switched from Arch to OpenMandriva, then from OpenMandriva to MX, but in the end I realized going back to a rolling release would be better. Since MX Linux converted me to getting rid of systemd and since they seem to be moving back towards it (afaik, the default images will now be systemd since they can't put both in a single image anymore).

For now I haven't even installed xlibre yet, it just feels good to be back on a system which actually feels free as in freedom.

Basically went :
Arch -> OpenMandriva -> MX -> Artix.

I think I'm actually going to stay here for some time.

Re: You moved from distro X to Artix, why ?

Reply #86 –
Moved from Arch to Artix.

Why, is probably one of the weirder reasons given. I don't know though as I only read a few of these lol.
It was Distrotube..
I watched his review of Artix and I thought it was strange that he was calling it a protest distro and seemed to be fairly negative about things that didn't seem like a big deal. It seemed like he was overly pro-systemd, and almost emotional about it, which kind of put me off. So for the first time in my linux journey it made me think about init, something I'd probably have never done until that video. So I did some basic research, picked runit and installed Artix.
I'm still here lol. I had a short month or two diversion to Void, but ended up coming back.

Re: You moved from distro X to Artix, why ?

Reply #87 –
Quote from: dangsasquatch – on
It was Distrotube.

When I was still new to Linux (I'm on my fifth year), I followed DistroTube for a while, maybe about two years?

The guy has fun doing what he does so I won't fault him for that but he really doesn't understand when he's talking through both sides of his mouth (or ass) about any given thing. By his definition of a "protest distro"; Linux Mint, OpenMandriva, and Q4OS are all "protest distros". I don't like that label because it suggests a lack of utility purpose.

Re: You moved from distro X to Artix, why ?

Reply #88 –
I moved from macOS, have used it for around 12 yrs but decided to give linux a try instead of buying another apple product.

At first I tried Arch with Hyprland, used it for 3 months. As I was reading the discussions about the init systems and display server differences I wanted to try something different, the idea of using Linux is to have the power of choice and not be stuck with what one company decided is the best and all the major distros have adopted as default.

Re: You moved from distro X to Artix, why ?

Reply #89 –
Funtoo stopped operation mid-last year and I really don't like the Gentoo environment, too much politicking and too hard to figure out how to keep a system stable.  This was a good non-systemd alternative.  I tried a few others and was unhappy with them (Devuan/PclinuxOS/Gentoo).  They felt unnatural or weren't easy to produce a working system with the apps I needed.  I've been using Artix for close to a year now and no real issues. 

I wish there were some packages in the repo that would facilitate running it for other purposes than a desktop (let's say Plex), I have to manually build 1Password, and having 'barrier' available would be nice, but beggars can't be choosers.  I have to run other distros when I want things like that.  Though it might be a good time to investigate moving to Jellyfin.

(1995)Slack->RH->(2002)Gentoo->(2015)Ubuntu->(2022)Funtoo->Artix