Evolution is not starting with all gtk versions 08 June 2024, 14:29:17 Since a few weeks, i cannot install artix xfce or cinnamon and start evolution.Clicking on the appsymbol - nothing happens. Starting from terminal - dbind errors are shown, something with "no permission".starting from terminal with sudo - nuspell and four more are missing. after installing the missing files, evolution starts with sudo only one time. After reboot same problem.With kde no problems, but i dont like the plasma desktop:-)is it a sign from above to stay with peppermint? i dont know, but artix was running before on this laptop with the version from september 23 very well. certainly i am overlooking something, but what? I install artix from 08/23 or the weekly builds, no difference. Evolution is not starting.sometimes a message with an I/O error is coming, but only very short...laptop is the same. on a second laptop the same problems, both from lenovo. artix is working, everything i need, but not evolution.but when i try plasma, evolution works. so the problem is not evolution, or?what can i try?
Re: Evolution is not starting with all gtk versions Reply #1 – 08 June 2024, 16:56:53 Post the terminal output on a pastebin. Using strace(1) is another nice way to see where it fails.
Re: Evolution is not starting with all gtk versions Reply #2 – 08 June 2024, 19:30:32 this is the terminal output, when i start evolution.(evolution:3043): dbind-WARNING **: 19:22:28.572: Couldn't connect to accessibility bus: Failed to connect to socket /run/user/979/at-spi/bus_0: Keine Berechtigung(evolution-alarm-notify:3053): dbind-WARNING **: 19:22:28.826: Couldn't connect to accessibility bus: Failed to connect to socket /run/user/979/at-spi/bus_0: Keine Berechtigungbwrap: Can't find source path /run/user/979/at-spi: Permission denied** (evolution:3043): ERROR **: 19:22:29.130: Failed to fully launch dbus-proxy: Der Kindprozess wurde mit Status 1 beendetTrace/Breakpoint ausgelöstThis when i start with sudo:(evolution:3711): Gtk-WARNING **: 19:25:50.769: Creating a portal monitor failed: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.UnknownMethod: Keine derartige Schnittstelle »org.freedesktop.portal.Inhibit« des Objekts im Pfad /org/freedesktop/portal/desktopis it helpful?
Re: Evolution is not starting with all gtk versions Reply #3 – 08 June 2024, 22:20:12 Does it start with dbus-launch?
Re: Evolution is not starting with all gtk versions Reply #4 – 09 June 2024, 06:26:30 no, same error messages...i have tried this from the troubleshooting tipps:pacman -S dnsmasq-openrc rc-update add dnsmasq default rc-service dnsmasq startthen evolution ist starting and working, but after reboot i have to do it again.so a problem with openRC?
Re: Evolution is not starting with all gtk versions Reply #5 – 09 June 2024, 07:49:59 same with dinit ...
Re: Evolution is not starting with all gtk versions Reply #6 – 09 June 2024, 15:56:52 I don't use this application regularly but it started up normally for me when I tried it just now.Quote from: schimmi – on 08 June 2024, 19:30:32this is the terminal output, when i start evolution.(evolution:3043): dbind-WARNING **: 19:22:28.572: Couldn't connect to accessibility bus: Failed to connect to socket /run/user/979/at-spi/bus_0: Keine BerechtigungI suspect this is your problem. I have no messages like this in my terminal. For whatever reason, this socket doesn't appear to exist on your machine.
Re: Evolution is not starting with all gtk versions Reply #7 – 09 June 2024, 18:07:41 thinkpad here, stable .iso with cinnamon, evolution as the mail client. Been loaded for a couple of months and all good for Evolution here (did a full update then reboot just to make sure). One last thing, no gtk warning if started from the terminal. Something funky going on there.
Re: Evolution is not starting with all gtk versions Reply #8 – 10 June 2024, 21:08:31 i give up, i tried all gtk versions. no way, evolution don´t start. second laptop too. one t470, one yoga. i stay with peppermint devuan, a little bit old, but working. i have already invest too much time. the laptop has to work. thank you very much for your efforts!!
Re: Evolution is not starting with all gtk versions Reply #9 – 11 June 2024, 00:14:24 I don't understand what you mean by "tried all gtk versions". It's a gtk3 application. There's no other versions to try.
Re: Evolution is not starting with all gtk versions Reply #10 – 11 June 2024, 06:33:48 i have no idea, what the problem was.i tried garuda with systemd, evolution works.so i thought, evolution is not the problem, and my laptop is also not the problem.then i tried artix with plasma, evolution works.so i thought, the problem is perhaps the desktop environment.and then i tried all of them.this is what i mean with "all gtk versions" (ok, not really correct)xfce - evolution is not workingmate - not workingcinnamon not working. everythime exactly the same errors.interestingly, lxde and lxqt are only starting after installing and updating with -Syu with the terminal.so i thought, it must be the laptop and try an unused nvme in my lenovo x1 thinkpad. but also, artix xfce and evolution are not working togehther. when i take artix 2023-08, then installing is perfect, no problems. great for a rolling distro, as i understand. no problems. i do a -Syu after installing, reboot, install evolution and firefox, then reboot and testing evolution. if i click on the button "email" i choose evolution and get an I/E error. If i start evolution with the terminal, i get the errors written above.installing with the weekly build is not so simple, everytime i have problems with the keys.so i do first pacman-key --init, then pacman-key --populate, and then a -Syu. after reboot installing evolution and testing. same problems.ich bin mit meinem Latein am Ende, in german, i dont know, what to do. i have the feeling, that i`m overlooking something simple. artix was working before on this laptop, but i have no idea, where my mistake is.i want a modern distro without systemd. so i am here. but i come to my limit...so thanks for helping!
Re: Evolution is not starting with all gtk versions Reply #11 – 11 June 2024, 10:20:56 Quote from: schimmi – on 11 June 2024, 06:33:48ich bin mit meinem Latein am Ende, ...ich würde mit export NO_AT_BRIDGE=1 versuchen.
Re: Evolution is not starting with all gtk versions Reply #12 – 12 June 2024, 09:12:09 ok, this helps a bit, a lot of ther errors are now gone.nevertheless evolution is not starting.per accident i find out, that all gnome-apps dont work. seahorse, cheese, everytime the same error:failed to connect to socket /run/user/976 ... no permission.so i checked this folder with thunar - i can only open it as root. is this right?perhaps it is something with permissions? on devuan no folder 976 exists, only 1000.on artix there is a 976 and a 1000 under /run/user/.the 1000 permission is me, the 976 permission lightdm. is this right?
Re: Evolution is not starting with all gtk versions Reply #13 – 12 June 2024, 09:28:23 here is the new error from evolution after writing "export..." to bash.profilebwrap: can`t find source path/run/user/976/at-spi: permission denied
Re: Evolution is not starting with all gtk versions Reply #14 – 12 June 2024, 15:25:07 It probably needs your actual user which is normally 1000. I have no idea why the application appears to be looking for the lightdm user's ID but I would not expect that to work. As a workaround, you could try not using a display manager.