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Looked at American Election

I don't know people's politics, but I'm pretty certain Joe Biden is not going to win this election!

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I know many people have their feelings about Kamala Harris as a president but whatever you think about her, Donald Trump has shown himself to be a fraud in all he does and all he has ever done.  It takes almost no intelligence to see through him.  That he won a second term is beyond all reason in my mind.  If he wants to perpetrate a fraud that he is now a christian and people want to invite him to their church or home for the holidays i understand BUT not to give him the keys to the kingdom and the nuclear launch codes.  Might as well ask a known drug addict to guard the evidence room that houses all the drugs. /endrant.

I live in Washington, DC
Cat Herders of Linux

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I know many people have their feelings about Kamala Harris as a president but whatever you think about her, Donald Trump has shown himself to be a fraud in all he does and all he has ever done.  It takes almost no intelligence to see through him.  That he won a second term is beyond all reason in my mind.  If he wants to perpetrate a fraud that he is now a christian and people want to invite him to their church or home for the holidays i understand BUT not to give him the keys to the kingdom and the nuclear launch codes.  Might as well ask a known drug addict to guard the evidence room that houses all the drugs. /endrant.

I live in Washington, DC
Many of 'The people' don't like being blatantly lied to and manipulated. It tends to backfire.
I have a suspicion that Brexit wouldn't have happened if the Remain side hadn't indulged in such rampant fearmongering leading up to our (I'm English) referendum though I think it would still have been close.
My own opinion is that your justice system and Mass Media were weaponised against Trump and that ended up helping him not hindering him, especially the former of the two.

Joe Biden should never have run again. And then you got the Mass Media gaslighting everyone "He's fine, He's mentally sharp" when it was very clear he was not. But then when he did pull out I think there should have been some sort of quick primary rather than shoehorning the Vice President in.
Maybe then things would have turned out different ?

As an outsider all I was hearing from Kamala was "Vote for me or you'll get him!".

Say what you want about the orange man but he's a marketing genius imo. His whole career has been about marketing himself.
I have always found him very strange but comparing him to Hitler, as the Democrats did, shows a distinct lack of respect to the victims and survivors of Nazi Germany.
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One of the duties of the office of vice-president is in fact filling in for the president should they become disabled, deceased, or unable to perform their duties for any reason.  When you vote for the pair you have to consider the possibility that the vp will become the p if circumstances warrant.  What's more interesting is that should the p and the vp become unable to perform their duties i think the speaker of the house assumes the duties of president even if they are of a different party.   There's a whole line of succession in any case.  All those rules around the succession line can only be changed, like the electoral college, by altering the constitution and that's no small task BUT given the election results and the margin trump won by they are getting close to republican domination.

Aside from that, as a seventh day adventist, there are bible prophecies that speak about the usa and about europe and the role of the vatican in all this which i could refer you to.  If you are interested in that message me privately for links as i don't want to come off as forcing my religion down anyone's throat.  Suffice it to say that there is precedent that trump might make good on the promise that he might be the last president we ever get to vote for.   
Cat Herders of Linux

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Also i didnt follow the news at all this election cycle.  I didnt get to see how they chose to oppose trump.  I am of the opinion that neither trump nor kamala are good candidates for president and so i abstained from the entire media circus around it.  I thought for sure Kamala was selected, after Joe withdrew, simply to hand the election to trump.  Seems i was right.  Wish i was wrong.  But in any case theres no good choice.  It's all doom and gloom from here i'm guessing.
Cat Herders of Linux

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So because of the electoral college system, my singular vote doesnt mean much.  That's because i live in DC and DC votes 92% democrat every election cycle for president going back as least the span of my lifetime (57 years and counting)  And further than that.  Because the electoral system in dc, whosoever wins the popular vote gets all the electoral college votes.  So long as the vote remains clearly democrat for president then dems will get all the ec votes.  My singular vote means little in that scenario.  Other states where the voting is more fluid, my singular vote mean a lot more.  In place like maine and nebraska when they split the electoral college votes up by counties won (or something like that)  my singular vote matters a bit more.   Should the repubs change the electoral college system and make it a singular popular vote my single vote has more weight to it so i would not be able to abstain because the total number of votes cast would have more bearing on the outcome.
Cat Herders of Linux

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What difference does it make who gets elected in the United States? Is it one fascist clan or another fascist clan? My opinion is that the United Bandit States is going through its sunset. The sooner they collapse, the better off the rest of the world will be.
 

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Elections are never decided by a single vote, so it never makes any difference to the result who you vote for or if you even bother to vote. Just vote for what you think best. Actually voting for the least popular party makes the greatest difference because you increase their support by the largest percentage even though your choice will obviously lose. It may seem to the winner though that they should pay more heed to the policies of a losing party if they were gaining votes.
If everyone did this then perhaps the results wouldn't be so fixed, and with only the same parties swapping power between them. But because everyone doesn't do this then the current state of affairs must be what they voted for.  :D

A friendly smile, a valid passport and sufficient money will conquer the world more effectively than any weapon, it is always worth remembering.

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That's interesting, I hadn't heard of that theorem before. Although if it's a dictatorship, was it an election?
I was also exaggerating, checking the odds here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_close_election_results
According to a 2001 study of state and federal elections in the United States between 1898 and 1992, "one of every 100,000 votes cast in U.S. [House of Representatives] elections, and one of every 15,000 votes cast in state [legislative] elections, "mattered" in the sense that they were cast for a candidate that officially tied or won by one vote."
It's still so improbable when you might vote in probably less than 50 or 100 national elections in a lifetime, that the common concept of only voting for those who might win is numerically flawed because it isn't based on the most likely outcome, and you can happily choose who you most like even if they have little hope of success.

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What difference does it make who gets elected in the United States? Is it one fascist clan or another fascist clan? My opinion is that the United Bandit States is going through its sunset. The sooner they collapse, the better off the rest of the world will be.

Yes it does seem like only a choice between hard or soft totalitarianism
Cat Herders of Linux