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Outstanding!
Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious

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soon to come out of testing.  We should get this fellow to join the Artix team and test on our platform

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Artix is becoming what Arch should have been

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soon to come out of testing.  We should get this fellow to join the Artix team and test on our platform

I can't wait to try it.  I suppose I should just wait for it to be out of testing.  Let's say I did want to try it now.  I typically don't have gremlins enabled.  But I do have arch repos enabled and regularly use the AUR.  Which is the safer route (community estimate), turning on gremlins and doing an install via pacman.. or since there is an xlibre package in the AUR using that.

There's a fair bit of warnings in the AUR comments for it suggesting that one has to take a lot of care to not mess up a system when using that method but perhapse similar care is needed via gremlins.

I suppose I should just get over my fear of having gremlins on.  I'm doing it.

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soon to come out of testing.  We should get this fellow to join the Artix team and test on our platform

I can't wait to try it.  I suppose I should just wait for it to be out of testing.  Let's say I did want to try it now.  I typically don't have gremlins enabled.  But I do have arch repos enabled and regularly use the AUR.  Which is the safer route (community estimate), turning on gremlins and doing an install via pacman.. or since there is an xlibre package in the AUR using that.

There's a fair bit of warnings in the AUR comments for it suggesting that one has to take a lot of care to not mess up a system when using that method but perhapse similar care is needed via gremlins.

I suppose I should just get over my fear of having gremlins on.  I'm doing it.

The AUR package depends on soystemd, it's going to be a pain to build it for Artix. The best way to try XLibre on Artix is to enable greminls as the last repos.

 

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I gave it a go from gremlins.  It didn't quite work for me.  Complained about an nvidia ABI mismatch.  Good news is it wasn't very hard to re-install xorg.

I'm going to wait for it to come out of gremlins.  Excited for the day.

Whether or not the AUR would work ok or not depends on what level of "depends on systemd" we're talking about.  A lot of times that just means some systemd files ending up in a folder than OpenRC will just ignore.

Now that I have the muscle memory for uninstalling and reinstalling a good amount of the graphics stack on my system I might give the AUR a try.  Compiling directly against my system might resolve the ABI issues.

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If you use nvidia's proprietary drivers, then no, it won't stop. You need to use "IgnoreABI" flag for this stuff to work properly...

Section "ServerFlags"
    Option "IgnoreABI" "true"
EndSection

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I gave it a go from gremlins.  It didn't quite work for me.  Complained about an nvidia ABI mismatch.

The instructions for closed source drives are in our xlibre wiki page https://wiki.artixlinux.org/Site/XlibreOnArtix#Closed_source_drivers  ;)

artist

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I gave it a go from gremlins.  It didn't quite work for me.  Complained about an nvidia ABI mismatch.

The instructions for closed source drives are in our xlibre wiki page https://wiki.artixlinux.org/Site/XlibreOnArtix#Closed_source_drivers  ;)

artist

Works.  Looking at instructions was the third thing I was going to try.  I'm glad I skipped the AUR.

Works like a dream.


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I was hoping Repology would have a nice index of all the places it's packaged but it appears none of the places that package it are using the same name. Hopefully someone over there can manually group them and then we could easily share one of these:


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An interesting page suggested to me by the author of the project:

https://gist.github.com/probonopd/301319568a554abe7426c02eb5e19b5a
What I don't understand is reading some of the discussions, there are comments like this:
"The maintainer’s need to make their hard right political views front and centre as part of the project in the README.md, combined with (to be clear - I think FOSS and politics are inseparable) shows contempt for users belonging to marginalised groups ..."
 but the README.md says:
"This is an independent project, not at all affiliated with BigTech or any of their subsidiaries or tax evasion tools, nor any political activists groups, state actors, etc. It's explicitly free of any "DEI" or similar discriminatory policies. Anybody who's treating others nicely is welcomed.

It doesn't matter which country you're coming from, your political views, your race, your sex, your age, your food menu, whether you wear boots or heels, whether you're furry or fairy, Conan or McKay, comic character, a small furry creature from Alpha Centauri, or just a boring average person. Anybody who's interested in bringing X forward is welcome."

Looking up the meaning of DEI:
"DEI commonly refers to Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion, which encompasses initiatives and practices aimed at fostering an inclusive environment that promotes diverse perspectives and equitable opportunities for all individuals. This term is widely applied in organizational and educational contexts to enhance social justice and representation."

Are these people being shown something different on that page? While that section is a bit redundant and contradictory it seems to support the principles of DEI if not the acronym itself.

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Are these people being shown something different on that page? While that section is a bit redundant and contradictory it seems to support the principles of DEI if not the acronym itself.

You're taking this from a common sense point of view. They don't. Most of them live in their bubble that is attuned to their frequency, and the main problem with these types of people is that they won't accept ANY aspect of your views or beliefs if it directly contradicts theirs. They can't be reasoned with, because if you try to act in good faith and show any kind of argument that has a solid foundation, they think you're tackling their beliefs and views, which is the crux of the matter because... due to their "perceived identity," by extension, it's like you're attacking them, since they can't comprehend that you have a different way of living.

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"The maintainer’s need to make their hard right political views front and centre as part of the project in the README.md, combined with (to be clear - I think FOSS and politics are inseparable) shows contempt for users belonging to marginalised groups ..."
 but the README.md says:



I can't even understand what this sentence means, but I find it essential to keep politics out of this (other than Free Software politics) and to just focus on the tech.