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Flashpoint - Wine Mono or dotNET?

hey all. i installed flashpoint based on the instructions from the official flashpoint wiki. when i tried installing a new game that came from armourgames or newgrounds the wine update window appears. it also asks to install wine dotNET but it immediately fails. installing the mono package didnt help. which dotNET package should i install from the package list in order for these games to work?

Re: Flashpoint - Wine Mono or dotNET?

Reply #1 –
Flashpoint on their download page says that it needs Visual C++ 2015+ Redist. Did you install that? You absolutely shouldn't install 2015 (actually any version from 2015 to 2019) tho, it's ancient and superseded by vcrun2022, but it doesn't hurt to install all of them with:
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# note: vcrun2022 covers vcrun2015+vcrun2019
winetricks -f -q vcrun2003 vcrun2005 vcrun2008 vcrun2010 vcrun2012 vcrun2013 vcrun2022
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Wine's Mono should be enough to run any dotnet app below Core 6~ as is, their wiki website says it's fine to use it, so you really shouldn't install M$ dotnet anyway until there's at least major breakage in functionality.
 

Re: Flashpoint - Wine Mono or dotNET?

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i installed the vcrun2022 like you said. i dont see any changes. should i reboot my machine? i can try the dotNET packages but i dont think it will break anything major like you said.
Quote from: Shoun2137 – on
Flashpoint on their download page says that it needs Visual C++ 2015+ Redist. Did you install that? You absolutely shouldn't install 2015 (actually any version from 2015 to 2019) tho, it's ancient and superseded by vcrun2022, but it doesn't hurt to install all of them with:
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# note: vcrun2022 covers vcrun2015+vcrun2019
winetricks -f -q vcrun2003 vcrun2005 vcrun2008 vcrun2010 vcrun2012 vcrun2013 vcrun2022
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Wine's Mono should be enough to run any dotnet app below Core 6~ as is, their wiki website says it's fine to use it, so you really shouldn't install M$ dotnet anyway until there's at least major breakage in functionality.

Re: Flashpoint - Wine Mono or dotNET?

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update: i was not able to get some flashpoint games to work but i am willing to try using aur/wine32. has anyone have any experience with using a AUR helper to compile? i find that it does not compile and tends to get stuck at FORTIFY_SOURCE redefined. i assume the issue with 64bit wine conflicting with the 32bit packages.

Re: Flashpoint - Wine Mono or dotNET?

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I've downloaded the thing, and you can actually forget about running anything there in wine, let alone having a smooth ride with this natively on windows. Almost every single thing here is glued with saliva. There's so much random software bundled into this that fixing anything related to electron (essentially webbrowsers) + some bootstrap stuff that hosts webservers locally would be the same as having a parttime sysadmin job, as this essentially tries to recreate entire legacy client-server architecture on your pc.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPH29bPpQQ4 Here's a tutorial that seemingly tries to run their linux-native version, did you tried this one?

Re: Flashpoint - Wine Mono or dotNET?

Reply #5 –
yes. i tried that tutorial. perhaps wine-stable would be the better option? tried installing that but i dont know how to add a gpg key to pacman since it requires it. its been awhile.

Re: Flashpoint - Wine Mono or dotNET?

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If wine is running, "winetricks" can install dotnet.
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winetricks dotnet40, winetricks dotnet45, winetricks dotnet46, or winetricks dotnet48
Should install dotnet in wine. As far as running stuff in wine, it is a hit or miss if it will run the application well from my experience.
As far as "AUR" helpers go, it is a matter of personal preferences.
I like "yay" since it is good to download, search and is one of the helpers one can pick in "octopi" to reach "AUR" with.
I like to download the source files and run locally since I have setup a local repository for the packages I create.
I find it works very well for dependencies since they will be installed as "--asdeps" when required without much effort.
It also allows for updates or modifications to distro versions of the package for example to fix "ext4magic" with the AUR version that actually functions without crashing.

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FORTIFY_SOURCE
The CFLAGS in /etc/makepkg.conf has this enabled.
One could modify the line in a new copy called /etc/makepkgwine.conf.
Delete the following part:
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-Wp,-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=3
Then run in the local downloaded folder:
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makepkg --config /etc/makepkgwine.conf
If or when you want to update at a later date without remembering to modify the line in the future.

This is what I do when an stubborn application does compile with the default CFLAGS. Just name the configuration file something that makes sense.

Re: Flashpoint - Wine Mono or dotNET?

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I followed that youtube tutorial, none of the wine versions work for me either, not even theirs, there's just black screen in-game, but using ruffle from here works:

I followed those steps too https://flashpointarchive.org/datahub/Linux_Support#Components
It's probably some dependency inside this wineprefix that prevents those games from running properly.
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Re: Flashpoint - Wine Mono or dotNET?

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Then run in the local downloaded folder: Code: [Select]
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makepkg --config /etc/makepkgwine.conf

by downloaded folder do you mean the .wine folder in the user home directory?

Quote from: Shoun2137 – on
I followed that youtube tutorial, none of the wine versions work for me either, not even theirs, there's just black screen in-game, but using ruffle from here works:

I followed those steps too https://flashpointarchive.org/datahub/Linux_Support#Components
It's probably some dependency inside this wineprefix that prevents those games from running properly.
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i did this, but this only changed the black screen in games to a white screen.
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Re: Flashpoint - Wine Mono or dotNET?

Reply #9 –
The folder in question is the source files of the package, that is where the PKGBUILD files and any other required files are located.
The easiest way is to use an AUR helper to download the files.
For example with "yay":
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$ yay -G wine32
When the source files are local, it makes it easy to change stuff when building the package such as using a modified makepkg.conf file.

BTW, dotnet can only be installed in 32 bit mode wine.

Re: Flashpoint - Wine Mono or dotNET?

Reply #10 –
tried using makepkg with the new makepkgwine file. i dont see the FORTIFY_SOURCE error anymore but all i see now is a repeating pattern of this line of code:
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what should i do now? also tried to build wine-stable but as i said in previous post, i get the "One or more PGP signatures could not be verified!" error. added the gpg signature according to the pinned comment in aur/wine-stable but i still see the error. what am i missing here? how can i update the gpg sig? already imported it, just need to put it somewhere but i dont know where.

Re: Flashpoint - Wine Mono or dotNET?

Reply #11 –
It's not Wine's fault per se, you need to probably install some dependencies in the wineprefix that Flashpoint creates. Recompiling wine won't work. I already tried several versions and every single one of them failed.