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Telegram is anti-privacy as well. For instance, it requires phone number for registration, and all communication goes through their servers.

Not saying you're wrong, but compared to big tech social media spyware, TG offers an open source client which doesn't record your voice, turn on your front camera, analyze all your phone sensors, scan your files and shove ads in your face. Plus, you can register using a burner phone (even a public payphone will do) and use its own FOSS client - or others - from your linux system.
For the time being it's an almost acceptable solution for non-sensitive, casual group communication, allowing for very large (200K) groups - end-to-end encryption can be used but only in secret chats and voice/video calls. For more serious stuff, Wire (also open-source client) is the way to go. For critical stuff, Tox is flirting with the top.

Not saying you're wrong, but compared to big tech social media spyware, TG offers an open source client which doesn't record your voice, turn on your front camera, analyze all your phone sensors, scan your files and shove ads in your face. Plus, you can register using a burner phone (even a public payphone will do) and use its own FOSS client - or others - from your linux system.
For the time being it's an almost acceptable solution for non-sensitive, casual group communication, allowing for very large (200K) groups - end-to-end encryption can be used but only in secret chats and voice/video calls. For more serious stuff, Wire (also open-source client) is the way to go. For critical stuff, Tox is flirting with the top.

That's true regarding TG client, but not the server. The server is closed source, and it supposedly stores all of your messages and encryption keys, thus your conversations via TG are not secure and can be accessed by a third party.

Hey artoo, «δυοῖν κακοῖν, τὸ μὴ χεῖρον βέλτιστον» (== between two evils, the lesser one is best). For reaching large groups of people without bigtech's boot on your neck, telegram is the lesser of two evils.
Your information is wrong. The secret chats are end-to-end encrypted and only you and the recipient have the decryption keys (this is the definition of end-to-end). The client being open source, we are guaranteed that the keys aren't "accidentally" leaked to someone else. There are many IM clients out there boasting end-to-end encryption but are closed source - which means they're not to be trusted. At all.

Big flashing warning: don't ever use the TG client from google playstore, it contains code that allows Google to block channels and messages. Perhaps more. That being said, don't use Gboard or any closed source keyboard for that matter, as EVERYTHING you type is collected and uploaded.

For the time being it's an almost acceptable solution for non-sensitive, casual group communication, allowing for very large (200K) groups - end-to-end encryption can be used but only in secret chats and voice/video calls. For more serious stuff, Wire (also open-source client) is the way to go. For critical stuff, Tox is flirting with the top.

Can you make matrix bridge with telegram group?

Twitter and FB outlets are unmaintained and undesirable due to heavy tracking and censorship. The most active by far is our Telegram group.

You need to organize particular secret chats in order to use end-to-end encryption, and this function is available only in mobile versions of the client, not in the desktop version. Second, message exchange goes through TG servers in any case.

Moreover, end-to-end encryption in TG has a major flaw. The thing is, random seeds needed to generate encryption keys are not generated on user devices, these are requested from the server instead. Since the server code is closed, we do not know how strong is random generation algorythm used in TG and whether those random seeds are logged somewhere or not.

Basically, in order for Artix (or any enetity, not just the devs for a linux distro) to expand their userbase and become more well known, they unfortunately need to play ball with the duopoly that Facebook and Twitter have on social networking - because the majority of people just aren't going to stop using either of them

Twitter and FB outlets are unmaintained and undesirable due to heavy tracking and censorship. The most active by far is our Telegram group.

Quote from: nous – on 15 September 2021, 22:42:39

Twitter and FB outlets are unmaintained and undesirable due to heavy tracking and censorship. The most active by far is our Telegram group.

waht is a telegram group?