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Paru not working

Hi,
`paru` upgrade or install of aur-packages don't work

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paru pamac
...
5 aur/pamac-aur 10.3.0-5 [+358 ~4.34] [Installed: 10.3.0-4]

:: Packages to install (eg: 1 2 3, 1-3):
:: 5
:: Resolving dependencies...
:: Calculating conflicts...
:: Calculating inner conflicts...

Aur (1) pamac-aur-10.3.0-5

:: Proceed to review? [Y/n]: 

:: Downloading PKGBUILDs...
 PKGBUILDs up to date
/home/tony/.cache/paru/clone/pamac-aur/PKGBUILD
# Contributor: Zeph <[email protected]>
# Maintainer: Zeph <[email protected]>
# https://gitlab.manjaro.org/packages/extra/pamac
ENABLE_FAKE_GNOME_SOFTWARE=0

pkgname=pamac-aur
pkgver=10.3.0
pkgrel=5
_pkgfixver=$pkgver

_commit='fe5ebe918439c5ad247bf82226421bb2083431a0'
sha256sums=('610d631e8a0e4de408546af776fb7f2cbee4d4f6743b4698e7bea8313c2e1f81')

pkgdesc="A Gtk3 frontend, Package Manager based on libalpm with AUR and Appstream support"
arch=('i686' 'x86_64' 'arm' 'armv6h' 'armv7h' 'aarch64')
url="https://gitlab.manjaro.org/applications/pamac"
license=('GPL3')
depends=('glib2>=2.42' 'json-glib' 'libsoup' 'dbus-glib' 'polkit' 'vte3>=0.38' 'gtk3>=3.24'
         'libnotify' 'desktop-file-utils' 'libpamac-aur>=11.2' 'gnutls>=3.4' 'git'
         'appstream-glib>=0.7.18-1' 'archlinux-appstream-data' 'libhandy' 'git')

optdepends=('polkit-gnome: needed for authentification in Cinnamon, Gnome'
            'lxsession: needed for authentification in Xfce, LXDE etc.')
makedepends=('gettext' 'itstool' 'vala>=0.46' 'gtk3>=3.24' 'asciidoc' 'meson' 'ninja' 'gobject-introspection' 'libappindicator-gtk3' 'xorgproto')
conflicts=('pamac' 'pamac-tray-appindicator')
provides=("pamac=$pkgver-$pkgrel")
options=(!emptydirs !strip)
install=pamac.install
source=("pamac-$pkgver-$pkgrel.tar.gz::$url/-/archive/$_commit/pamac-$_commit.tar.gz")

define_meson=''
if [ "${ENABLE_FAKE_GNOME_SOFTWARE}" = 1 ]; then
  conflicts+=('pamac-gnome-integration' 'pamac-gnome-integration-dev' 'gnome-software')
  define_meson+=' -Denable-fake-gnome-software=true'
fi


prepare() {
  cd "$srcdir/pamac-$_commit"
:

here stop to work.

following still works:

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git clone https://aur.archlinux.org/pamac-aur.git
Klone nach 'pamac-aur'...
remote: Enumerating objects: 671, done.
remote: Counting objects: 100% (671/671), done.
remote: Compressing objects: 100% (445/445), done.
remote: Total 671 (delta 228), reused 666 (delta 225), pack-reused 0
Empfange Objekte: 100% (671/671), 169.69 KiB | 1.73 MiB/s, fertig.
Löse Unterschiede auf: 100% (228/228), fertig.
Tony-Haupt-PC:[tony]:~$ cd pamac-aur
Tony-Haupt-PC:[tony]:~/pamac-aur$ makepkg -si
==> Making package: pamac-aur 10.3.0-5 (Thu Feb 24 13:48:50 2022)
==> Checking runtime dependencies...
==> Checking buildtime dependencies...
==> Retrieving sources...
  -> Downloading pamac-10.3.0-5.tar.gz...
  % Total    % Received % Xferd  Average Speed   Time    Time     Time  Current
                                 Dload  Upload   Total   Spent    Left  Speed
100  155k  100  155k    0     0   437k      0 --:--:-- --:--:-- --:--:--  436k
==> Validating source files with sha256sums...
    pamac-10.3.0-5.tar.gz ... Passed
==> Extracting sources...
  -> Extracting pamac-10.3.0-5.tar.gz with bsdtar
bsdtar: Failed to set default locale
==> Starting prepare()...
==> Starting build()...

Have someone a idea how to solve this issue?

by the way, i would appreciate if someone can indicate me where to find "packages not in the AUR: kross-interpreters  thunderbird-artix" and a good replacement for "marked out of date: masterpdfeditor-free"

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paru
[sudo] password for tony: 
:: Synchronizing package databases...
 system is up to date
 world is up to date
 galaxy is up to date
 universe is up to date
 omniverse is up to date
 extra is up to date
 community is up to date
:: Starting full system upgrade...
warning: openal: local (1.21.1-3.1) is newer than world (1.21.1-3)
 there is nothing to do
:: Looking for AUR upgrades
:: Looking for devel upgrades
:: Resolving dependencies...
:: Calculating conflicts...
:: Calculating inner conflicts...
:: packages not in the AUR: kross-interpreters  thunderbird-artix
:: marked out of date: masterpdfeditor-free

Aur (4) c++utilities-5.13.0-1  crow-translate-2.9.1-2  libpamac-aur-11.2.0-6  yandex-browser-beta-22.1.3.856_1-1

Thank you, greetings.

Re: Paru not working

Reply #1 –
AUR is not officially supported in Arch, and even less so in Artix, where there is an additional requirement for packages to not hard depend on systemd:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Arch_User_Repository
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Warning: AUR packages are user-produced content. These PKGBUILDs are completely unofficial and have not been thoroughly vetted. Any use of the provided files is at your own risk.

Neither Arch nor Artix provide support for AUR packages, that's done by the maintainer of each individual package. Refer to the individual packages' page at https://aur.archlinux.org/ for support.

https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/AUR_helpers
Quote
Warning: AUR helpers are not supported by Arch Linux. You should become familiar with the manual build process in order to be prepared to troubleshoot problems.

Re: Paru not working

Reply #2 –
If you are not familiar with the AUR and its workings you should not be using it at all. Please familiarise yourself with the "Arch User Repository". If you install AUR software w/o concern, you will encounter "issues". Paru is itself an AUR package, and therefore not at all supported by Artix (or Arch for that matter). To request help installing unsupported software with unsupported software? The Aur helper "Trizen" can be found in the Artix galaxy repo, and "yay" and "yaourtix" are available in the unofficial Artix universe repo.
Also "pamac" is available in the universe repo.
You would be bettered served to use those in my opinion..

Best regards.
We should try to be kind to everyone.....we are all fighting some sort of battle.

Re: Paru not working

Reply #3 –
is not a question of AUR or not AUR, it's a question paru is not working, see thread-title.

as i already posted the download and installation from/over github is working, paru is not working.

Re: Paru not working

Reply #4 –
Quote from: tony26102 – on
is not a question of AUR or not AUR, it's a question paru is not working, see thread-title.

as i already posted the download and installation from/over github is working, paru is not working.


Paru is from the AUR....so it is very much a question about the AUR, or at least about unsupported software.

Best regards.
We should try to be kind to everyone.....we are all fighting some sort of battle.

Re: Paru not working

Reply #5 –
I don't know, it seems you just need to press enter to scroll down the PKGBUILD.

Always have used Trizen and yay, though.

Re: Paru not working

Reply #6 –
Quote from: tony26102 – on
Hi,
`paru` upgrade or install of aur-packages don't work
I think I saw a recent message on arch mailing lists about recent changes at the AUR which would render yaourt not working. Perhaps it's affecting paru too?
Quote from: tony26102 – on
by the way, i would appreciate if someone can indicate me where to find "packages not in the AUR: kross-interpreters  thunderbird-artix" and a good replacement for "marked out of date: masterpdfeditor-free"
Thunderbird-artix is renamed into just thunderbird and lives in [world] repo. I still use masterpdfeditor-free, the out-of-date flag is set by TL;DR users at  the AUR:
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DPDmancul commented on 2019-04-01 20:45 (UTC)
Please do not flag as outdated: this is the latest free version.
When you start Master PDF Editor it will say that there is a newer version but it is a 5.x version,
and since 5.x had been introduced a watermark. If you want the latest non-free version please
refer to: https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/masterpdfeditor

Re: Paru not working

Reply #7 –
Your best bet for paru support if paru is not working is the GitHub repo:
https://github.com/Morganamilo/paru
If there was a problem with the PKGBUILD and building or packaging from that, then the AUR page would be a good place to start:
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/paru
But here, checking with pakku, the AUR still works and I see no other reports on either of those pages. There have been occasional problems when the AUR is not available at some times though, which are probably more related to network issues relating to connecting to the website, and I guess you could have here, possibly paru doesn't make the connection in quite the same way as git clone does, perhaps sort of like how you get ftp, http or https transfers etc.

Re: Paru not working

Reply #8 –
Quote from: conky60 – on
Paru is from the AUR....so it is very much a question about the AUR, or at least about unsupported software.

Best regards.
Well, if you sell me a car and i have later problems with the tire, you cannot send me to to tire producer for...
it's not a shame if someone don't know something, we all learn the whole life long.

i cannot understand some former, let me say, unproductive o. useless comments if we are all fighting some sort of battle.

if a topic is categorically refused, no matter which reason is behind, nobody learns something new and at least is not polite.

if we are here and now is a certain reason for, an history behind us. Finally, i don't ask a couple of links that prove me that there is no solution, i ask kindly if someone have a solution for a specific problem, that's all.

All people reading this, do it for some reason, but not to hear the legitimate o. illegitimate reason to cannot solve it, hence, we all would know if there is a solution for it, otherwise nobody would read it.

if you go to doctor, like we have here, let say software o. linux doctor, with some pains, you want to eliminate your pains and not to hear, don't use anymore your arm, your leg or your head anymore o. at least avoid using it. What will you do or think if your doctor give you a couple of links (apparently) proving you to not use some part of your body in order to avoid pains?

I thank you and all people trying helping me and all of us, and i hope you can understand my position.

Best regards an thanks again.

Re: Paru not working

Reply #9 –
Quote from: nous – on
I think I saw a recent message on arch mailing lists about recent changes at the AUR which would render yaourt not working. Perhaps it's affecting paru too?Thunderbird-artix is renamed into just thunderbird and lives in [world] repo. I still use masterpdfeditor-free, the out-of-date flag is set by TL;DR users at  the AUR:
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DPDmancul commented on 2019-04-01 20:45 (UTC)
Please do not flag as outdated: this is the latest free version.
When you start Master PDF Editor it will say that there is a newer version but it is a 5.x version,
and since 5.x had been introduced a watermark. If you want the latest non-free version please
refer to: https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/masterpdfeditor
Thanks first for your answer.
Let me precising  the 'Master-pdf' topic:

Master PDF Editor / Tools / Settings / Updates / Check for Update Automatically / Never

This was the solution to your explanation till now. Marking the software package as obsolete in the AUR... this is a different thing.
That's mean... now is marked as obsolete and later will be completely removed, do you agree with me?

The perfect and desirable solution, for all in a Linux system, would be one like in Redmond software 15 years ago where a third party offer an 'postscript' package to enable functions (read, write, print, modify, etc.) and crypt the disabled function assigning a password, but... this is not my request nor my intention to request something like this.

My request is: Do someone know a package, preferably, under Artix can replace the Master-PDF-Editor? If not, are there other alternative? Naturally without watermarks and free.

Thanks again for your answer that i appreciate.

Re: Paru not working

Reply #10 –
Quote from: tony26102 – on
Well, if you sell me a car and i have later problems with the tire, you cannot send me to to tire producer for...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OM3kl-hg4rI

Your argumentation is unbearable, to say the least.

I'm not just sending you to the tyre manufacturer, but because this is now YOUR CAR, you have to maintain it yourself, fill it up with petrol and learn to drive it. Complaining about the steering wheel, seats, glove box, sun visors and everything else is of no interest at all.
"Wer alles kann, macht nichts richtig"

Artix USE="runit openrc slim openbox lxde gtk2 qt4 qt5 qt6 conky
-gtk3 -gtk4 -adwaita{cursors,themes,icons} -gnome3 -kde -plasma -wayland "

Re: Paru not working

Reply #11 –
@OP: What part of my previous reply seems unclear? AUR is not made nor approved by Arch team nor Artix team. It is user produced. Everyone can literally add anything to AUR. Some even added malicious PKGBUILDs which could obtain root access! This is the primary reason the usage of AUR helpers is discouraged over the official tools (makepkg after inspecting the PKGBUILD).

There is no way we can be familiar with every package in AUR nor know its quirks. Keep in mind:

1. They are designed for Arch in the first place.

2. They have dedicated maintainers anyway, who know the packages they maintain through and through. Better to ask them for support about their package.

The only support one can reasonably assume to get here is for the packages in the official Artix repositories. And if the issue is a bug, we will still suggest reporting it upstream.

Re: Paru not working

Reply #12 –
I apologize if you are referring to my answer and 2 links. But I am guessing the problem you encountered was a result of AUR availability, there have been definite issues with that:
https://www.reddit.com/r/archlinux/comments/sw5tuj/aur_is_down_again/
https://status.archlinux.org/788139639
So you can see there have been numerous recorded outages and also from the discussion that not everyone is affected at once, I have seen it a couple of times briefly. Typically the internet itself caches and locally mirrors frequently accessed web content for efficient transmission, in a similar way your browser has a local cache, so it could depend on your location and internet service provider what you get, and some packages may be available while others are not.
 But if it's that, then it has nothing to do with paru. If it is paru at fault then reporting it to the paru project will probably get you better results than discussing it here, I don't mean that in a negative way at all, just trying to help you out.
I suppose you could also check any local paru related config you might have if you have changed anything?
This is the AUR packages discussion sub-board though so I think it's OK to discuss it, and possibly helpful for other AUR users, but what Strajder is trying to explain is that because paru is not in any way an Artix package the actual official Artix team can't really be expected to fix it as it is outside of their area of responsibility.  ;D
According  to the AUR page comments for masterpdfeditor it should not have been flagged out of date so ignore that, it will probably get unflagged later. There are some browser extensions that claim to allow pdf editing but I have never used them to offer advice there, I think Abiword was able to create simple pdf documents and was a lot lighter than libreoffice.

Re: Paru not working

Reply #13 –
Quote
Well, if you sell me a car and i have later problems with the tire, you cannot send me to to tire producer for...

paru is part of default Artix installation? I am not sure...

Re: Paru not working

Reply #14 –
Quote from: calvinh – on
paru is part of default Artix installation? I am not sure...
Well, besides of all the answers, this like i mostly.

1. The fight between `systemD` and other init-systems is clear and also the reason to use Artix.
2. Sure i had to use e.g. `ckb-next` from Aur for a couple of years until a kind developer/maintainer include it in Artix. Please don't take it again away because of this my comment.
3. `pacman` is not able to handle aur-packages, `yay` is not working properly anymore, `paru` is recommended and i communicate with developer on github.
4. What's about flatpack & Co.? E.g. OBS apparently only works if not token from standard repository.

Apparently, we should not use AUR, ok!

Do you intend to convert and import all convenient Aur-packages to standard Artix repository?
Do make a sense if i install a `ckb-next` package and have to enable it manually in `openrc`?
Do make a sense if repository maintainer replace `cups` and after upgrade no printer and no internet-connenction works anymore?
Is this all communicated in the Artix news i can consult before or after upgrade?
Should we stop to lead people to Arch-Wiki cause of incremental changes and continuous modifications? E.g. `zram / zramen` and of course due `systemD` presence.

Of course is paru not in the official repository, this is on github and not installable from AUR if no other aur-helper is installed, but paru is more than pacman only, also, what do you intend to do?

It's make no sense to feel ourself personally attacked and defend desperately lost positions, this is only waste of time and resources, not my intention at all and not help anybody. We have a lot to do, we are all in the same boat, and we should help each other. Tell us what you intend to do, tell us what you have changed and what do you intend to change, improve the Artix-wiki, ask for help if you retain it opportune and for all, stop making changes without advice or wiki-thread that remedy the inevitable failures.

I don't care who have i to blame for the errors in the software that let stopping to work cups, ckb-next, internet-connenction, yay, paru and threat to stop working or install masterpdf-free. We all need comfortable (for expert) and easy (for beginners) solutions to everyday problems.

Freedom is not continuous fixing for a small elite of experts or finding a solution in the net after hours of searching without concrete advice or wiki. I have not to contact personally the developer of a program, and even if the developer the same coder of yay is… we have suddenly problems and the developer, apparently, is not able to communicate with normal human (see above link to thread).

So, please let me know how i can facilitate or help you all, i will overtake a part of your duty in order you can communicate with paru coder and find a solution.

Please announce/communicate which apps will next changed/replaced and how to uninstall the old one and install the new one properly.

Therefore, make me please a favor, don't post any link that not solve the problem, rather explain the solution for a problem.

Thank you all, i hope we can do a better work, greetings to you all.