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Do artix devs has solution for missing runtime libraries

In Artix Linux build system, packages are pushed to repositories , which are not  build with correct dependencies. Then some user have to report on forum. Which is lengthy process.
Do devs have solution ?
Create problems which don't have solution

Re: Do artix devs has solution for missing runtime libraries

Reply #1 –
Not sure what you are asking.
If you use arch or 3rd party packages, you are on your own.
For artix packages, they go thorough the same build process as arch packages.

Re: Do artix devs has solution for missing runtime libraries

Reply #2 –
Quote from: artoo – on
Not sure what you are asking.
If you use arch or 3rd party packages, you are on your own.
For artix packages, they go thorough the same build process as arch packages.

problem like these popup sometimes https://forum.artixlinux.org/index.php/topic,4850.msg30958.html#msg30958
can these be handled before pushing package
Create problems which don't have solution

Re: Do artix devs has solution for missing runtime libraries

Reply #3 –
I repeat myself now.
If you use 3rd party packages, do not complain on the forum.

We will be removing artix-archlinux-support package entirely, since we have our own pace which is different from arch.
This support is an annoyance by now to be simply removed.

Re: Do artix devs has solution for missing runtime libraries

Reply #4 –
Quote from: artoo – on
We will be removing artix-archlinux-support package entirely

I appreciate if you gave a 10 days heads up on that.

btw amazing distro. (for real) (^_^)

EDIT1: one question, will there be a systemd dummy, just to resolve aur packages that need it. (even though it's not really needed)
EDIT2: now that I think of it, we can just ask aur package maintainer to add systemd as optional dependency

for me the only need in anything systemd related is
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artix-archlinux-support
└─lib32-artix-archlinux-support
  └─lib32-libnm
    └─steam-native-runtime
      └─proton-ge-custom

I'm looking at "proton-ge-custom" dependecy hell wondrously
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$ pactree proton-ge-custom | wc -l
1684

$ pactree --unique proton-ge-custom | wc -l
444
 

EDIT3: I came to conclusion that if I have a need  for a systemd dummy, I have to make it myself and I can do that. There is no need to maintain such a package for handful few use cases.

Re: Do artix devs has solution for missing runtime libraries

Reply #5 –
Quote from: suren – on
I appreciate if you gave a 10 days heads up on that.
If you have artix-archlinux-support installed it won't just stop working when / if the package is removed from the repo.
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EDIT1: one question, will there be a systemd dummy, just to resolve aur packages that need it. (even though it's not really needed)
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pkgname='myprovides'
pkgver=1
pkgrel=1
arch=(any)
provides=('systemd' 'systemd-libs' 'lib32-systemd')
Job done on the dummy if you build the above PKGBUILD and install (but your current 'artix-archlinux-support' it already doing this so is not necessary unless you uninstall it.)
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EDIT2: now that I think of it, we can just ask aur package maintainer to add systemd as optional dependency
You can ask but it's the Archlinux user repository not the Archalike user repository.
Just download the build files and make your changes.

Re: Do artix devs has solution for missing runtime libraries

Reply #6 –
Users report problems because dev's cannot use and test every aspect of every package on every update to check it works fully, this is true for any distro. Open source is a community effort, reporting is part of that.
 

Re: Do artix devs has solution for missing runtime libraries

Reply #7 –
Quote from: artoo – on
We will be removing artix-archlinux-support package entirely, since we have our own pace which is different from arch.
This support is an annoyance by now to be simply removed.

I agree with you in principle, but I would do it differently.

I wouldn't remove archlinux support, but all the people who can't handle it.
"Wer alles kann, macht nichts richtig"

Artix USE="runit openrc slim openbox lxde gtk2 qt4 qt5 qt6 conky
-gtk3 -gtk4 -adwaita{cursors,themes,icons} -gnome3 -kde -plasma -wayland "

Re: Do artix devs has solution for missing runtime libraries

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Quote from: nous – on
This is extremely dangerous to our democracy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiocracy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defective_democracy
"Wer alles kann, macht nichts richtig"

Artix USE="runit openrc slim openbox lxde gtk2 qt4 qt5 qt6 conky
-gtk3 -gtk4 -adwaita{cursors,themes,icons} -gnome3 -kde -plasma -wayland "