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I can't shutdown or reboot my PC.

Hey! I've been having this trouble with Artix Linux OpenRC since last night, and I've spend a good amount of time trying to fix it, but with no luck, so I've gone ahead and made an account on the forum to ask for help!

My issue is that whenever I try to do
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sudo reboot
or
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sudo poweroff
it returns
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Broadcast message from root@dirtman (pts/2) (Sat Mar 29 21:31:05 2025):

The system will reboot now
or
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Broadcast message from root@dirtman (pts/2) (Sat Mar 29 21:31:05 2025):

The system will power off now
as it normally does, but now for some reason, it doesn't reboot/power off, it just returns that message and then does nothing.

I really have no idea what to do here, and I don't like shutting down by holding the power button because of the filesystem risks that come with that. Thanks for any help!

Re: I can't shutdown or reboot my PC.

Reply #1 –
I don't know the answer. But in the meantime you can use ctrl-alt-delete to do a safe reboot and then use the power button once the computer exits Linux.
From within X, or wayland I guess, switch tty (ctrl-alt-f2) then ctrl-alt-delete.
Also learn about and enable Magic SysRq key and how to exit cleanly with REISUB. Useful if the computer hangs.

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Reply #2 –
Does a good old

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# shutdown -h now // "poweroff"
# shutdown -r now // "reboot"

work?

I always used the above and am not even sure where the plain "reboot", "poweroff", etc. commands come from. I thought that was a systemd thing even?

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Reply #3 –
Quote from: mikapyon – on
I always used the above and am not even sure where the plain "reboot", "poweroff", etc. commands come from. I thought that was a systemd thing even?
"reboot", "poweroff" etc are parts of a proper init system. So is "shutdown".
Quote from: DirtMan – on
I really have no idea what to do here, and I don't like shutting down by holding the power button because of the filesystem risks that come with that. Thanks for any help!
Check dmesg and logs for any errors when you try to reboot. Check for any halting processes.

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Reply #4 –
I had an experience where it didn't want to shutdown the first time yesterday with 'shutdown'

This was after a kernel upgrade.  After running it a few times, it finally took.  I suspect it is a hardware issue.  I'm not opposed to pulling the dam plug when it doesn't want to do what I say

or kill -9 1

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Reply #5 –
Quote from: mikapyon – on
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# shutdown -h now // "poweroff"
# shutdown -r now // "reboot"
Like you I have always used shutdown -h now for poweroff, but it seems dinit doesn't allow a time so shutdown -h now fails.

I'm fairly old now so unable to learn many new tricks :(

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Reply #6 –
Quote from: gripped – on
Also learn about and enable Magic SysRq key and how to exit cleanly with REISUB. Useful if the computer hangs.
Thanks for this! This will act as a temporary work around until I find my solution.


Quote from: mikapyon – on
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# shutdown -h now // "poweroff"
# shutdown -r now // "reboot"
I actually think that the 'poweroff' and 'reboot' commands are just aliases for these commands, because they return the exact same message, and also fail to power off/reboot. Even if they are different though, they still don't work.


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I suspect it is a hardware issue.
Is it likely for a hardware issue to show up after ~2 months of completely fine use? What could've happened? I also don't have super uncommon or new hardware, so it seems odd to me that this would be the case. I can look into this I suppose however.


Quote from: Ambie – on
Check dmesg and logs for any errors when you try to reboot. Check for any halting processes.
I've looked at dmesg and other seemingly related logs and they don't seem to show any errors (I'm not fully sure what logs you refer to, I just looked at a few that seemed related to power management), they just show the exact same message as I saw before in a different location. I should also mention that none of my processes even seem to try to stop, librewolf, spotify, etc, all keep running and behaving exactly as normal.

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Reply #7 –
Quote from: DirtMan – on
What could've happened?

Lighting Strike, Tsumi, dropped computer, normal age of components, power surge, cat urinates on the power supply, evil spirits... need I add more?

Computers are no different than light bulbs.   They burn out with normal use.

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Reply #8 –
Quote from: mrbrklyn – on
Lighting Strike, Tsumi, dropped computer, normal age of components, power surge, cat urinates on the power supply, evil spirits... need I add more?
None of these things have happened lol, except possibly a power surge, I'm not sure of that one, it is possible. My PC is pretty new, no parts are older than 2-3 months. I don't think it's a hardware issue at this point. I also feel like any possible hardware issue would also cause other issues on the computer (which I don't have). My best guess for the source of this problem is that OpenRC isn't sending a power signal properly, or whatever receives said signal isn't doing anything with it, I really don't know though, I'm not super experienced on the low level side of computers. And on the side of the evil spirits, I'll look into my local exorcists. Thanks for the reply!

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Reply #9 –
I have dinit. 'sudo shutdown' doesn't work for me, but 'sudo halt' works. But for me the problem was that linux shuts down, but the computer didn't power off.

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Reply #10 –
Quote from: XyzzyX – on
I have dinit. 'sudo shutdown' doesn't work for me, but 'sudo halt' works. But for me the problem was that linux shuts down, but the computer didn't power off.
'sudo halt' seems to be another alias for poweroff, at least on OpenRC, as it gives me the exact same result.
Would pulling the plug be safe once linux has shut down?

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Would pulling the plug be safe once linux has shut down?
Yes

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Reply #12 –
Quote from: mrbrklyn – on
[...]  I suspect it is a hardware issue.  [...]

Yeah, well I bet this is ACPI related. Probably something got updated and now your linux box doesn't know what to sendoff properly.

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Reply #13 –
I am very clueless so listen to me the least, plus I do not use openrc, but since there seem no good leads so far:

If I understand correctly, the openrc shutdown script uses a FIFO here:
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/run/openrc/init.ctl

You could have a look if it exists, is a FIFO, has 0600 permissions set, etc. Might not hurt to post the output, if what I say is even correct.

There is also another thread that might give you some ideas?
https://forum.artixlinux.org/index.php/topic,6537.0.html

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And could try to call
usr/bin/openrc-shutdown
manually and see if there is any message on the terminal?
 
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