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Re: Which Desktop Environment (DE) or Window manager (WM) do you use

Reply #15 –
Quote from: Shoun2137 – on
Quote from: asterix – on
So not many are using Cinnamon, MATE and KDE Plasma. Interesting.
Keep in mind that the normie doesn’t really care about what they run, they just consume. If you’re trying to gauge the userbase, it would be much better to ask the devs directly for the download statistics, i.e., how many people downloaded each ISO. That way, we’d know which one is the most popular.

But what about people who download from torrents? Is there a method of  counting downloads that way?

Re: Which Desktop Environment (DE) or Window manager (WM) do you use

Reply #16 –
Quote from: Shoun2137 – on
it would be much better to ask the devs directly for the download statistics, i.e., how many people downloaded each ISO. That way, we’d know which one is the most popular.

Probably not precise also, I always install XFCE then get my dwm setup from backups. Maybe i3 would show by looking at downloads but not dwm or Xmonad.

Re: Which Desktop Environment (DE) or Window manager (WM) do you use

Reply #17 –
Quote from: asterix – on
Why is Tiling WM not for everybody? And are you using dwm on Artix?

With dwm you need to change and compile C code. With Xmonad you need to do the same with Haskell. Maybe i3 is simpler to set but also not being pure tiling WM.

Window arrangement with tiling WM is something that is either perfect or completely wrong for any random user. I spend most of the day in terminal/vim/emacs so dwm works perfectly. If I would spend the day in gimp or blender I would probably use XFCE.

Re: Which Desktop Environment (DE) or Window manager (WM) do you use

Reply #18 –
I use Pantheon. IMHO, of course, but I think that pantheon is a healthy person's gnome. You can see for yourself what a smoker's gnome looks like :)

I am happy with its appearance (gtk theme, cursor, icons, fonts and icons on the panel). There are a minimum of settings here, but there is everything I need. The speed of work on my almost 13-year-old equipment is also satisfactory. All I did after installation was set up wallpaper, added several key combinations for launching programs and scripts, added several things to autorun. The disadvantages include the tie to gnome and systemd (because of systemd, not everything works as it should) and of course bugs, where without them...

Re: Which Desktop Environment (DE) or Window manager (WM) do you use

Reply #19 –
1.) Compiz
2.) Openbox
3.) Xfce
 Cool thing about Compiz is, that it can be started by xinit and has some kind of session management - I guess.

It is very efficient, very stylish, very easily configurable and has all the tools needed.
Would it be against the rules here, posting ""desktop "" "screencasts" with a hemp leaf or a brown cigarre shaped  mouse cursour  ?
never know
 

Re: Which Desktop Environment (DE) or Window manager (WM) do you use

Reply #20 –
I use KDE because I like bloat and bugs. Why fix bugs when you can add new features nobody wants or asked for  ;)
I just prefer the QT look and feel over GTK and I've been using it since the KDE 1 beta apart from when KDE 4 first got pushed on us.

Re: Which Desktop Environment (DE) or Window manager (WM) do you use

Reply #21 –
dwm. I first used Xfce as I'd used it on Arch, but I set up a dwm environment the way I wanted and I'm not going back.
Nothing turns me off more than Gnome or Kde.

Re: Which Desktop Environment (DE) or Window manager (WM) do you use

Reply #22 –
A full blown desktop environment is slowing the system down. You will not notice that on normal usage, but when playing games or other realtime tasks that are tuned for low latency, you want maybe something else then gnome(cinnamon, budgie) or kde.
364 processes open here, thats is still much but a good trade off.

Re: Which Desktop Environment (DE) or Window manager (WM) do you use

Reply #23 –
Quote from: yoyo55 – on
A full blown desktop environment is slowing the system down. You will not notice that on normal usage, but when playing games or other realtime tasks that are tuned for low latency, you want maybe something else then gnome(cinnamon, budgie) or kde.
364 processes open here, thats is still much but a good trade off.
For sure on a low power system.But with enough cores and memory there's not a lot of difference.
I've tested it. Big DE vs X11 starting the game directly.

Re: Which Desktop Environment (DE) or Window manager (WM) do you use

Reply #24 –
I am no expert,just a user with a lil experience.
You are surely right , but my main argument is:
when pushing down lantencies, maybe down to 1 ms, then you will notice that everything can disturb the realtime experience:
my neighbour, just switching off the light can lead to Xruns in my lowlatency stream.
So,I am trying to keep things small and I am trying to avoid complexity:
maybe, I will gain some performance advantages that are maybe so small that they can not be measured.
But reducing complexity helps too, being your own private sys admin.

Re: Which Desktop Environment (DE) or Window manager (WM) do you use

Reply #25 –
Quote from: Shoun2137 – on
Quote from: asterix – on
So not many are using Cinnamon, MATE and KDE Plasma. Interesting.
Frankly, you’re asking people on forums, which are mostly powerusers. Powerusers that have aversion to the current status quo of linux desktop as a whole, mainly the way leading toolkits (ugh, gtk...) and DEs (well, GNOME...) are going... GNOME was mentioned, because even if it's dying and users are fleeing, it's still has a say in most of the FD things and also maintains a lot of useless frameworks that most of use don't need, but those are forced upon.

Keep in mind that the normie doesn’t really care about what they run, they just consume. If you’re trying to gauge the userbase, it would be much better to ask the devs directly for the download statistics, i.e., how many people downloaded each ISO. That way, we’d know which one is the most popular.
I am looking at various DE/WMs for Artix. I have been doing a bit DE hopping on Artix. From LXQT to MATE to XFCe. And I wanted to know what most of the people running Artix use. But using LXQT/MATE made me realize how much are these environments lacking. For example MATE, which ideally ought to have been the most complete DE, given its heritage of GNOME, does not even have a default calculator app or a clock/timer/stopwatch application installed. And nor is there available specifically built using GTK2.

This is just me get a sense of lay of the land on what is being used.

Yes you a right, most of the people only really care about what they consume.

Going to Devs for numbers of downloads based on different ISO would be interesting to say the least. I will consider that.

Re: Which Desktop Environment (DE) or Window manager (WM) do you use

Reply #26 –
Quote from: Worm_Jim – on
I use Pantheon. IMHO, of course, but I think that pantheon is a healthy person's gnome. You can see for yourself what a smoker's gnome looks like :)

I am happy with its appearance (gtk theme, cursor, icons, fonts and icons on the panel). There are a minimum of settings here, but there is everything I need. The speed of work on my almost 13-year-old equipment is also satisfactory. All I did after installation was set up wallpaper, added several key combinations for launching programs and scripts, added several things to autorun. The disadvantages include the tie to gnome and systemd (because of systemd, not everything works as it should) and of course bugs, where without them...
Are you using pantheon desktop from elementary OS on Artix? If yes how did you manage to achieve that? I had assumed that Artix is a Arch based Linux not based on systemd. And Pantheon Desktop requires systemd.

You are using this on a 13-year old system. Is that a desktop or mini-pc or workstation or laptop or netbook or chromebook? Do you use much of GUI based applications or is your work mostly on terminal? My work is typically that requires a lot of GUI. I cannot sustain based only or predominantly on terminal. Can you please share the details of your setup and how it performs? 

Re: Which Desktop Environment (DE) or Window manager (WM) do you use

Reply #27 –
Quote from: gripped – on
I use KDE because I like bloat and bugs. Why fix bugs when you can add new features nobody wants or asked for  ;)
I just prefer the QT look and feel over GTK and I've been using it since the KDE 1 beta apart from when KDE 4 first got pushed on us.
I also love KDE and QT. But KDE has become a bloat. Love its level of customization and eye candy. Just amazing.
 

Re: Which Desktop Environment (DE) or Window manager (WM) do you use

Reply #28 –
Quote from: yoyo55 – on
1.) Compiz
2.) Openbox
3.) Xfce
 Cool thing about Compiz is, that it can be started by xinit and has some kind of session management - I guess.

It is very efficient, very stylish, very easily configurable and has all the tools needed.
Would it be against the rules here, posting ""desktop "" "screencasts" with a hemp leaf or a brown cigarre shaped  mouse cursour  ?
never know
How did you get Compiz and openbox to run on Artix? Did you install the base ISO and from there went about installing compiz and or openbox?

Re: Which Desktop Environment (DE) or Window manager (WM) do you use

Reply #29 –
Quote from: asterix – on
Quote from: Worm_Jim – on
I use Pantheon. IMHO, of course, but I think that pantheon is a healthy person's gnome. You can see for yourself what a smoker's gnome looks like :)

I am happy with its appearance (gtk theme, cursor, icons, fonts and icons on the panel). There are a minimum of settings here, but there is everything I need. The speed of work on my almost 13-year-old equipment is also satisfactory. All I did after installation was set up wallpaper, added several key combinations for launching programs and scripts, added several things to autorun. The disadvantages include the tie to gnome and systemd (because of systemd, not everything works as it should) and of course bugs, where without them...
Are you using pantheon desktop from elementary OS on Artix? If yes how did you manage to achieve that? I had assumed that Artix is a Arch based Linux not based on systemd. And Pantheon Desktop requires systemd.

You are using this on a 13-year old system. Is that a desktop or mini-pc or workstation or laptop or netbook or chromebook? Do you use much of GUI based applications or is your work mostly on terminal? My work is typically that requires a lot of GUI. I cannot sustain based only or predominantly on terminal. Can you please share the details of your setup and how it performs?
Yes, Pantheon Shell is a desktop environment that is used in Elementary OS and I use it on Artix, and before that I used it on Arch. There is an article about Pantheon on archwiki, but I had to work: write down all the names of the packages, copy their PKGBUILD's, check if all the dependencies are in the repositories, if the package depends on systemd, if so, you need to find a way to build without it, build the latest available versions, check that everything works correctly. Then I started a virtual machine and built everything again to make sure there were no errors during the build. After I got a fully working environment, I already wrote a post asking to add all the packages to the Artix repositories, especially since I attached all the PKGBUILD's, but the Artist came and published this news, where it says that Pantheon is now available for Artix :)

This is a Lenovo Thinkad X230 laptop, which was released on January 21, 2013 with the configuration: i5-3210m, 16Gb RAM, 512Gb Sata SSD and a 9-cell battery. This is my main device for all tasks. I mainly use programs with a graphical interface, fortunately, I have everything I need, and in the terminal I mainly work with the system or server (maintenance and administration), which happens often. I constantly use ncmpcpp (in the terminal) with mpd, because the native Pantheon player eats up 1Gb of RAM, if I add my music collection of 10Gb, which seems too much to me. The native video player is also weird, so I use mpv, but it has some unpleasant features on my device... The hardest task is programming for Android in IntelliJ IDEA, the laptop copes with it, but 16GB of RAM is still not enough and I have to restart the development environment sometimes, not as often as with 8Gb, but I have to. When watching local videos, reading books in pdf format, simple surfing (with noscript configured in the browser), reading email or listening and editing tags of music files, the laptop works for me for about 6 hours (from 100% to 20%), which is more than enough. That's how it is.