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Re: [SOLVED] No window open with Wlan active

Reply #15 –
Quote from: daemon – on
Or isn't the KDE ISO well configured?
AFAIK, all Artix ISOs are tested. Even so, you can always use the base ISO and go from there.

Again, post logs (preferably using paste.artixlinux.org) so we can try to find the cause of the problem. See here:

how to ask correctly to get the right answer

Re: [SOLVED] No window open with Wlan active

Reply #16 –
Quote from: strajder – on
AFAIK, all Artix ISOs are tested. Even so, you can always use the base ISO and go from there.

I don't think so because otherwise there wouldn't be both gpu drivers are active.

inxi:
https://paste.artixlinux.org/b971b5bb

lsmod:
https://paste.artixlinux.org/66455e8f

After the initial update after fresh install it didn't happen again, so I have to wait.


EDIT:
The two screenshots from my last post were from the live iso.


Re: [SOLVED] No window open with Wlan active

Reply #17 –
The first thing you do after installation and reboot from hard disk is pacman -Syyu, provided you have a working network connection.

You have two video cards installed in your system?

If not, you shouldn't use nouveau (independent driver for NVIDIA cards) with an AMD ATI card. If the kernel still somehow loads nouveau on your system, you should blacklist nouveau module.

Post other logs, most importantly /var/log/dmesg.log and /var/log/everything.log.

Re: [SOLVED] No window open with Wlan active

Reply #18 –
Quote from: strajder – on
You have two video cards installed in your system?
If not, you shouldn't use nouveau (independent driver for NVIDIA cards) with an AMD ATI card. If the kernel still somehow loads nouveau on your system, you should blacklist nouveau module.

Yes, there are two video cards in the system, one from the cpu and a dedicated nVidia. Nowadays many notebooks have two video cards.
Both drivers are loaded by default from the ISO. But why?

dmesg.log is empty and everything.log is too long atm and there's nothing special in the log to see the problem, because like I said there wasn't any problem since reboot and update.

Re: [SOLVED] No window open with Wlan active

Reply #19 –
Quote from: daemon – on
everything.log is too long atm and there's nothing special in the log to see the problem, because like I said there wasn't any problem since reboot and update.
Since there is no problem, I guess this doesn't apply then?
Quote from: daemon – on
Even before I did the first update (I used the same weekly Iso from 30.08. like the last time, and the exact settings), Wlan was activated, nothing worked again.
[...]
Or isn't the KDE ISO well configured?
Running pacman -Syyu after installing and rebooting the system from disk is standard procedure. Artix is a rolling release distro and it is user's fault if he doesn't update the system. There is nothing wrong with the ISO. If you disagree, provide the everything.log and dmesg output (or log) from when there is a problem.

Re: [SOLVED] No window open with Wlan active

Reply #20 –
Didn't you read what I wrote? I said dmesg.log is empty and in the everything.log can't be found what I'm looking for because it happened during the live session!

And of course the iso has issues and the installation too because it happened there, some packages aren't loaded (xcb for example) as you can see in the two screenshots, and last but not least, two gpu drivers are loaded at the same time.

I know what a rolling release distro is and I know what to do after an installation, but these problems were in the live iso session.
And it's not my job to blacklist a gpu driver because I didn't install them on my own.

Re: [SOLVED] No window open with Wlan active

Reply #21 –
Quote from: daemon – on
Didn't you read what I wrote? I said dmesg.log is empty and in the everything.log can't be found what I'm looking for because it happened during the live session!
[...]
I know what a rolling release distro is and I know what to do after an installation, but these problems were in the live iso session.
Your descriptions are very vague, I hope not on purpose.

You didn't write the issue happened during the "live session" (meaning the initial session from installation media, not the one from the installed system). You instead wrote this:

Quote from: daemon – on
As I mentioned I did a fresh install and set the hostname with the installer, nothing else.
So, it's a fresh installed system that has problems.

Quote from: daemon – on
In the first post I wrote that I use OpenRC and tried with XFCE and KDE (now I'm on KDE), both fresh installs.

I will give the logs if this issue happens again.
So, now it's a fresh install from both XFCE and KDE, and both installs work without problems ("if this issue happens again")?

Quote from: daemon – on
Actually, I am still interested in the error, so I just installed Artix again.
Even before I did the first update (I used the same weekly Iso from 30.08. like the last time, and the exact settings), Wlan was activated, nothing worked again.
So, again, it is the installed system that has problems, and not the session from installation media?

If your issue happens during the session from the installation media, I can test that on my laptop. Installed system should be updated immediately on first boot.

If you have two graphics cards, see here:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Hybrid_graphics
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/NVIDIA_Optimus

Re: [SOLVED] No window open with Wlan active

Reply #22 –
I am having the same issue.  It happens in both XFCE and Cinnamon.  If I log out of the desktop environment and log back in again, I can then open new windows normally with WIFI enabled. This happens consistently on my home network that have WEP security credentials saved by network manager.  It does not happen right now on an open wifi network.  I have run "pacman -Syyu" and it does not correct the problem as of a few hours ago.

My computer is using network manager and openrc.  My video driver is amdgpu.

Re: [SOLVED] No window open with Wlan active

Reply #23 –
Here is dmesg:

https://paste.artixlinux.org/7cd6ef81

For some reason, I can't paste everything.log.  The pastebin gives an error that it contains blocked words.

Re: [SOLVED] No window open with Wlan active

Reply #24 –
Quote from: matt_ – on
For some reason, I can't paste everything.log.  The pastebin gives an error that it contains blocked words.
A word list was recently introduced to block pornographic material from being posted. One of them was "children", but I guess in UNIX processes spawn lots of them and tell syslog about it. You can re-try now.

Re: [SOLVED] No window open with Wlan active

Reply #25 –
Quote from: matt_ – on
I am having the same issue.  It happens in both XFCE and Cinnamon.  If I log out of the desktop environment and log back in again, I can then open new windows normally with WIFI enabled. This happens consistently on my home network that have WEP security credentials saved by network manager.  It does not happen right now on an open wifi network.  I have run "pacman -Syyu" and it does not correct the problem as of a few hours ago.

My computer is using network manager and openrc.  My video driver is amdgpu.



I am so glad that someone else is having this problem, I missed this thread in September and thought that it must be only me that was having the problem!
I too have an amdgpu in this new laptop and I am wondering if that is the problem?

My system is:
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System:    Host: mc-NL5xNU Kernel: 5.14.16-artix1-1 x86_64 bits: 64 Desktop: LXQt Distro: Artix Linux
Machine:   Type: Laptop System: Notebook product: NL5xNU v: N/A serial: N/A
           Mobo: Notebook model: NL5xNU serial: N/A UEFI: INSYDE v: 1.07.07 date: 10/15/2020
Battery:   ID-1: BAT0 charge: 48.1 Wh (100.0%) condition: 48.1/49.4 Wh (97.3%)
CPU:       Info: 8-Core model: AMD Ryzen 7 5700U with Radeon Graphics bits: 64 type: MT MCP cache: L2: 4 MiB
           Speed: 1862 MHz min/max: 1400/1800 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 1862 2: 1397 3: 1397 4: 1397 5: 1396 6: 1397 7: 1397
           8: 1406 9: 1397 10: 1397 11: 1397 12: 1397 13: 1418 14: 1397 15: 1397 16: 1397
Graphics:  Device-1: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] Lucienne driver: amdgpu v: kernel
           Device-2: Chicony Chicony USB2.0 Camera type: USB driver: uvcvideo
           Display: x11 server: X.org 1.21.1.1 driver: loaded: amdgpu,ati unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa
           resolution: <missing: xdpyinfo>
           Message: Unable to show advanced data. Required tool glxinfo missing.
Audio:     Device-1: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] driver: snd_hda_intel
           Device-2: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Raven/Raven2/FireFlight/Renoir Audio Processor driver: N/A
           Device-3: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 17h HD Audio driver: snd_hda_intel
           Sound Server-1: ALSA v: k5.14.16-artix1-1 running: yes
           Sound Server-2: PulseAudio v: 15.0 running: yes
Network:   Device-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet driver: r8169
           IF: eth0 state: down mac: 80:fa:5b:9d:3b:e1
           Device-2: Intel Wi-Fi 6 AX200 driver: iwlwifi
           IF: wlan0 state: up mac: 48:51:c5:9d:94:be
Bluetooth: Device-1: Intel AX200 Bluetooth type: USB driver: btusb
           Report: rfkill ID: hci0 state: up address: see --recommends
Drives:    Local Storage: total: 298.1 GiB used: 4.89 GiB (1.6%)
           ID-1: /dev/nvme0n1 model: 256GB PCS PCIe M.2 SSD size: 238.47 GiB
           ID-2: /dev/sda type: USB vendor: Lexar model: USB Flash Drive size: 59.62 GiB
Partition: ID-1: / size: 57.21 GiB used: 4.89 GiB (8.5%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda2
           ID-2: /boot/efi size: 1.19 GiB used: 296 KiB (0.0%) fs: vfat dev: /dev/sda1
Swap:      Alert: No swap data was found.
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 36.2 C mobo: N/A gpu: amdgpu temp: 33.0 C
           Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A
Info:      Processes: 326 Uptime: 24m Memory: 14.99 GiB used: 1.45 GiB (9.7%) Shell: Bash inxi: 3.3.08

I can post logs if necessary to help.

EDIT: This happens with both openrc and dinit versions of LXQT.

Re: [SOLVED] No window open with Wlan active

Reply #26 –
None of you have posted any relevant logs, except from  that one inxi log. Post /var/log/everything.log and /var/log/dmesg.log. Of course not in the body of the post, use paste.artixlinux.org and put the URLs of the pastes here.

It would also be helpful to open a terminal and start an X program from that terminal, to see the error messages. For example, for XFCE:
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$ atril >atril-output.log 2>&1
and then post atril-output.log. Substitute atril above with the name of the X program's executable. In the case of LXQt, you can use:
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$ pcmanfm-qt >pcmanfm-output.log 2>&1

If you can't open a terminal, log out and then back in (as per @matt_'s post above) to temporarily clear the issue, then (if testing XFCE) create a file ~/atril-test:
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#!/bin/sh
atril >~/atril-output.log 2>&1
execute:
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$ chmod 755 ~/atril-test
and create a launcher in XFCE. Next to "Command:" field, open browser and navigate to the file atril-test in your home directory. Save, then reboot and activate the said launcher. Press "Launch Anyway" and then post atril-output.log from your home directory (if it is nonempty).

Similar method could be used on LXQt, just instead of atril, use for example pcmanfm-qt.

Re: [SOLVED] No window open with Wlan active

Reply #27 –
@STRADJER

https://paste.artixlinux.org/view/6672226c
https://paste.artixlinux.org/view/c10fb50c
https://paste.artixlinux.org/view/1c5a1159
https://paste.artixlinux.org/view/2e6a86ac
https://paste.artixlinux.org/view/70cd8b6e
https://paste.artixlinux.org/view/37ff2118
https://paste.artixlinux.org/view/9efb3b1a

Apologies for the delay in replying, I have been very busy at work.

Those are the logs you requested, the plain everything.log and dmesg are from the live LXQT Openrc, the 'no_wifi' and 'with_wifi' are from the subsequent installed version.

In my case, I cannot launch any programs or login or out with wifi running, the application menu will open but all items are unresponsive. As soon as I disconnect the wifi, everything returns to normal.

The pcmanfm-qt text is copied from the terminal and shows the result of the commands when connected to wifi and disconnected from wifi.

I hope this is of use in locating the problem.

Re: [SOLVED] No window open with Wlan active

Reply #28 –
This seems to be a problem with NetworkManager managing hostname. This is a post from 2010 from Arch forum which describes the problem:

https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=684936#p684936

The configuration file name and format have since changed, but NetworkManager still wants to be too smart for its own good. You can try to set the parameter hostname-mode to none instead, as per this answer:

https://unix.stackexchange.com/a/513413

This is one of the reasons why "user friendly" programs are bad: you might not know exactly what they are programmed to do in certain situations. The more "user friendly" a program is, the less control a user has over it. Personally, I use only wpa_supplicant for WiFi.

Proposed solution: Edit /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf by adding/changing:
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[main]
plugins=keyfile
hostname-mode=none

For more information:
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man 5 NetworkManager.conf

Re: [SOLVED] No window open with Wlan active

Reply #29 –
Quote from: strajder – on
This seems to be a problem with NetworkManager managing hostname. This is a post from 2010 from Arch forum which describes the problem:

https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=684936#p684936

The configuration file name and format have since changed, but NetworkManager still wants to be too smart for its own good. You can try to set the parameter hostname-mode to none instead, as per this answer:

https://unix.stackexchange.com/a/513413

This is one of the reasons why "user friendly" programs are bad: you might not know exactly what they are programmed to do in certain situations. The more "user friendly" a program is, the less control a user has over it. Personally, I use only wpa_supplicant for WiFi.

Proposed solution: Edit /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf by adding/changing:
Code: [Select]
[main]
plugins=keyfile
hostname-mode=none

For more information:
Code: [Select]
man 5 NetworkManager.conf


Thank you so much @STRAJDER, your proposed solution has worked perfectly!

And I take your point about 'user friendly' programs, they can be too clever.