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Re: Ventoy

Reply #1 –
Quote from: n00b – on
Re: https://www.ventoy.net/en/index.html
I am unable to get an install working from a iso with ventoy.
two logs
http://termbin.com/d7uu
http://termbin.com/uut6

Due to how this project is/was developed and how the built system works, it is really hard to get support for you exact device. When booting, which option did you choose? 1st normal boot or 2nd Ventoy's grub? Also it might be due to USB driver stack not being native to the platform. Recently I worked on old intel 2gen Acer Aspire laptop (I actually use Ventoy fairly extensively) and had problems when installing Windows 7 off of left side USB 2.0 that seems like it was wired differently than the two other ports on the right side, it just badly enumerated the USB drive - I could create, remove and format the partition on HDD, but the popup for applying the boot (100MB) partition was not being triggered, pressing next would display "Windows can't be installed on this drive.". You should try to troubleshoot it in this direction, as there are bootloader issues in the logs which suggests to me that this is similar problem, because as for Linux, and personally for Artix, I did install it several times on various devices from Ventoy and it worked fine. There are just quirks to this software.
Quote from: n00b – on
Re: https://www.ventoy.net/en/index.html
Question 2
https://www.ventoy.net/en/plugin_persistence.html
Ventoy allows live iso's to be persistence by putting a dat file on the usb.
Arch has one. Anyone from artix interested on getting one for artix?

Oh no, trust me using Ventoy this way is just a bad idea. You don't want to do that, with how finicky this thing is, it's just trouble. Also look at how old those ISOs are, it's clear that nobody cares. I've also read that the "main" developer disappeared and his friend took over it here https://github.com/ventoy/Ventoy/issues/2795#issuecomment-2501265861

Re: Ventoy

Reply #2 –
Quote from: Shoun2137 – on
Quote from: n00b – on
Re: https://www.ventoy.net/en/index.html
I am unable to get an install working from a iso with ventoy.
two logs
http://termbin.com/d7uu
http://termbin.com/uut6
Due to how this project is/was developed and how the built system works, it is really hard to get support for you exact device. When booting, which option did you choose? 1st normal boot or 2nd Ventoy's grub?
1st normal
Quote from: Shoun2137 – on
Also it might be due to USB driver stack not being native to the platform. Recently I worked on old intel 2gen Acer Aspire laptop (I actually use Ventoy fairly extensively) and had problems when installing Windows 7 off of left side USB 2.0 that seems like it was wired differently than the two other ports on the right side, it just badly enumerated the USB drive - I could create, remove and format the partition on HDD, but the popup for applying the boot (100MB) partition was not being triggered, pressing next would display "Windows can't be installed on this drive.". You should try to troubleshoot it in this direction, as there are bootloader issues in the logs which suggests to me that this is similar problem, because as for Linux, and personally for Artix, I did install it several times on various devices from Ventoy and it worked fine. There are just quirks to this software.
Well that makes sense.
In this https://download.artixlinux.org/iso/artix-cinnamon-dinit-20240823-x86_64.iso I have USB issues, but it a gygabite from that generation
Quote from: Shoun2137 – on
Quote from: n00b – on
Re: https://www.ventoy.net/en/index.html
Question 2
https://www.ventoy.net/en/plugin_persistence.html
Ventoy allows live iso's to be persistence by putting a dat file on the usb.
Arch has one. Anyone from artix interested on getting one for artix?
Oh no, trust me using Ventoy this way is just a bad idea. You don't want to do that, with how finicky this thing is, it's just trouble. Also look at how old those ISOs are, it's clear that nobody cares. I've also read that the "main" developer disappeared and his friend took over it here https://github.com/ventoy/Ventoy/issues/2795#issuecomment-2501265861
So a portable persistent does not have a good solution?

Re: Ventoy

Reply #3 –
Quote from: n00b – on
So a portable persistent does not have a good solution?

What problems do you want to solve with this?
"Wer alles kann, macht nichts richtig"

Artix USE="runit openrc slim openbox lxde gtk2 qt4 qt5 qt6 conky
-gtk3 -gtk4 -adwaita{cursors,themes,icons} -gnome3 -kde -plasma -wayland "

Re: Ventoy

Reply #4 –
Quote from: lq – on
Quote from: n00b – on
So a portable persistent does not have a good solution?

What problems do you want to solve with this?
Having an updated ISO that can also have other iso's on it?
having useful software locally?
having a 128gb flash drive that is more useful than stuck as a 1gb iso flashed?

Or are there other solutions I do not know?

Re: Ventoy

Reply #5 –
Quote from: n00b – on
I am unable to get an install working from a iso with ventoy.
http://termbin.com/d7uu
http://termbin.com/uut6
grub-install: error: filesystem `btrfs' doesn't support blocklists.
This should be reported to calamares.
https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=225407
https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=251059
https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=144254
Quote from: n00b – on
Question 2
https://www.ventoy.net/en/plugin_persistence.html
Ventoy allows live iso's to be persistence by putting a dat file on the usb.
Arch has one. Anyone from artix interested on getting one for artix?
Yes. I've created an anonymizing live ISO with persistence for personal use, NOT based on ventoy, but I'm not willing to share (yet).
 

Re: Ventoy

Reply #6 –
Quote from: nous – on
Quote from: n00b – on
I am unable to get an install working from a iso with ventoy.
http://termbin.com/d7uu
http://termbin.com/uut6
grub-install: error: filesystem `btrfs' doesn't support blocklists.
This should be reported to calamares.
no u
I have no way of getting all the things they want for a bug report
Quote from: nous – on
Quote from: n00b – on
Question 2
https://www.ventoy.net/en/plugin_persistence.html
Ventoy allows live iso's to be persistence by putting a dat file on the usb.
Arch has one. Anyone from artix interested on getting one for artix?
Yes. I've created an anonymizing live ISO with persistence for personal use, NOT based on ventoy, but I'm not willing to share (yet).
tease

Re: Ventoy

Reply #8 –
In reply to your question here:
https://forum.artixlinux.org/index.php/topic,5447.msg45515
I usually install following approximately the base install guide:
https://wiki.artixlinux.org/Main/Installation
However I often conduct the installation from an existing Artix OS with the target drive in an external enclosure, or use a full iso for the base procedure and do the partitioning and formatting in Gparted, which is easy. I find the full iso's don't install with BTRFS the way I like and they add subvolumes and other complications which might confuse Grub (or me), the same is true of other distros I've tried like Devuan. I usually rearrange things how I want there as well, after the installation. I just make some GPT partions formatted to BTRFS instead of EXT4, nothing fancy, ie no RAID, subvolumes or compression.